Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:21     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well. kids may as well learn about affirmative action over merit earlier than later. it's the liberal way.


Do you have any evidence to support this claim about affirmative action or is this just a case of sour grapes?


It's a case of feeling like a victim, I think. And sometimes people who feel like victims actually are victims; but sometimes they aren't.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:21     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.


Yes. It is a failure in multiple dimensions. But at least they successfully reduced the Asian "over-representation," Discerning public should think more carefully whether this kind of divisive policy and social engineering is good for anyone.


Cohort method appears to be a big win for the county since it helps more kids achieve while reducing bussing costs.


https://theblackandwhite.net/59776/news/boe-holds-community-meeting-addresses-staffing-new-curriculum-mental-health/

At least on of these strong-peer-cohort middle school pricipal is on the record saying the new classes won't be much different.


That's funny our principal said the exact opposite.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:20     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Yes. It is a failure in multiple dimensions. But at least they successfully reduced the Asian "over-representation," Discerning public should think more carefully whether this kind of divisive policy and social engineering is good for anyone.


You're using "social engineering" as a synonym for "bad". Why?

Adding the downcounty magnets was social engineering. Adding the upcounty magnets was social engineering. The previous admissions policy was social engineering. This admissions policy is social engineering. Adding a magnet for the Cold Spring kids would be social engineering. Getting rid of the magnets would be social engineering. Whatever MCPS does is social engineering, inherently. The only way to get rid of government social engineering is to get rid of government. Which I don't advocate; do you?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:19     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.


Yes. It is a failure in multiple dimensions. But at least they successfully reduced the Asian "over-representation," Discerning public should think more carefully whether this kind of divisive policy and social engineering is good for anyone.


Cohort method appears to be a big win for the county since it helps more kids achieve while reducing bussing costs.


https://theblackandwhite.net/59776/news/boe-holds-community-meeting-addresses-staffing-new-curriculum-mental-health/

At least on of these strong-peer-cohort middle school pricipal is on the record saying the new classes won't be much different.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:18     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.


Clearly, it wasn't the county's agenda to socially engineer anything but provide a means to help more high-performing students find a peer group and on that front, it's a big win.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:16     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:well. kids may as well learn about affirmative action over merit earlier than later. it's the liberal way.


Do you have any evidence to support this claim about affirmative action or is this just a case of sour grapes?
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:15     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.


Yes. It is a failure in multiple dimensions. But at least they successfully reduced the Asian "over-representation," Discerning public should think more carefully whether this kind of divisive policy and social engineering is good for anyone.


Cohort method appears to be a big win for the county since it helps more kids achieve while reducing bussing costs.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:15     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BOTTOM LINE the top 2.5% of 4000 (2018 application pool) beats out the top 16% of 600 (2017 application pool)


BUT BUT 4000 kids selected to test because of high grades and test scores isn't the same as the 600 kids selected by their parents!!


I didn't know half of the down county students have high grades and test scores. I might have believed you if they only tested 1000 or 1500. A whole 50% of kids?



They should probably do universal testing to shut-up the Cold Spring whiners.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:15     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.


Yes. It is a failure in multiple dimensions. But at least they successfully reduced the Asian "over-representation," Discerning public should think more carefully whether this kind of divisive policy and social engineering is good for anyone.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:14     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
well. kids may as well learn about affirmative action over merit earlier than later. it's the liberal way.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:12     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:The cohort method is a better use of the country's finite resources. Less money spent on bussing while helping more high-achievers find an academic cohort. I'm sorry that some parents feel slighted but it will work out fine.


agree
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:12     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
BOTTOM LINE the top 2.5% of 4000 (2018 application pool) beats out the top 16% of 600 (2017 application pool)


BUT BUT 4000 kids selected to test because of high grades and test scores isn't the same as the 600 kids selected by their parents!!


I didn't know half of the down county students have high grades and test scores. I might have believed you if they only tested 1000 or 1500. A whole 50% of kids?

Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:11     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
If the county's top-secret illegal agenda was to increase diversity in the magnets, they failed miserably since it's still 75%+ White and Asian.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:11     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:
and you are perfectly ok with that, but never would be ok with any policy that discriminates against blacks. Who exactly is racist here?

MCPS is discriminating against people based on where they live, which in this case, is a proxy for race because most of the rejected students with top scores happen to be white/asian on the western side.

MCPS wanted more URM in the magnets, so they widened the testing net. Perfectly fine and acceptable. But if those students could get in without having to lower the threshold, then why change the testing, why stop reporting median test scores of accepted students, why look at "peer cohort" which disproportionately affects students from the western side? They couldn't figure out a way to increase URM admittance rate without having to change something.

Any policy which gives favor to one side over the other is not a fair policy. Remember the policy the US had about favoring European immigrants over others, like Asians? Some of the Trump supporters want to bring back this policy, which is favoring one location over another. Wouldn't you agree that was not a fair policy? Yet somehow MCPS policy of favoring one group based on location over the other is ok to you.


I can't believe you're comparing MCPS looking at peer cohort in the home middle school, on the one hand, to the current presidential administration favoring immigrants from Norway over immigrants from Nigeria, on the other. That's really something.
Anonymous
Post 05/17/2018 10:06     Subject: Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?
Anonymous wrote:The cohort method is a better use of the country's finite resources. Less money spent on bussing while helping more high-achievers find an academic cohort. I'm sorry that some parents feel slighted but it will work out fine.

Goal post keeps moving. If you can't argue against statistical facts, throw in the "it's better for the whole district". I'm guessing some parents don't feel it's better for them, and you would also not be happy if you were slighted in some way by a public school district.

Of course these students will be fine. They are high achieving no matter what. But apparently, a test in magnet program is not about "high achieving' anymore.