Anonymous
Post 02/10/2018 10:06     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So far, the possible reasons other parents have suggested - -

1. Applying from a private school
2. Using a private psychologist
3. Ethnic/racial profiling
4. Lack of best work samples




I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


Why is suggesting racial profiling trolling? The OP said the the FCPS person mentioned many "communities" prepping. While that could mean people in a certain geographic region, it could also mean ethnic/cultural background. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't make that person a troll. It is especially interesting that the GBRS and the WISC seemed to have no impact, despite being high.


There are plenty of Asians/Indians in AAP program. This is the first time i am reading racial profiling could be the reason!!


There are plenty of Asians in Ivies also. That doesn't mean the Asian penalty doesn't exist. There is a perception that Asians prep (as evident by OP being told that some communities prep), so an Asian kid with high scores might be more scrutinized. If the child is in FCPS and has a high GBRS prepared by FCPS employees, that helps to rebut the bias that the child prepped. If the GBRS isn't prepared by FCPS personnel, then is may not be viewed as reliable. The problem is OP also submitted a high WISC, which was also the ignored. I'm not sure why some communities prepping overrides an WISC performed by an independent psychologist. OP deserves some answers on that front. When you start factoring in that some communities prep into the selection process, you run the risk of crossing the line into denying services based on race/ethnicity. You also penalize individual members of the communities based on stereotypes. I'm not saying that's what happened here, but the denial, along with the reference to communities prepping seems to suggest it could have been a factor.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2018 09:42     Subject: AAP appeal declined

I would take this to local media, and see if there is interest in some investigative journalism about whether the AAP selection process has bias (based on base school, race, private/public, etc.).
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2018 08:53     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:Op here

Please let’s not take this to something it is not

Let’s keep the topic on aap, selection process and what I could do next

Things you could do:
1. Try to meet in person with the AAP coordinator
2. Set up a meeting with the principal of your local school to discuss placement in the Local Level IV classroom

I don't know if there's much else you can do at this point.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2018 03:04     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined

Op here

Please let’s not take this to something it is not

Let’s keep the topic on aap, selection process and what I could do next
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2018 00:27     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


Whites are obsessed with scamming their kids into AAP including bribing and cheating.


Asians are tiger moms and prep like hell starting in preschool.


Indians are obsessed with Kumon.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 23:40     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So far, the possible reasons other parents have suggested - -

1. Applying from a private school
2. Using a private psychologist
3. Ethnic/racial profiling
4. Lack of best work samples




I do not think racial profiling is an issue here. Whoever suggested in this thread is a work of a troll!!

Additional point:

GBRs from private school seems to carry less or no weight.


Why is suggesting racial profiling trolling? The OP said the the FCPS person mentioned many "communities" prepping. While that could mean people in a certain geographic region, it could also mean ethnic/cultural background. Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion doesn't make that person a troll. It is especially interesting that the GBRS and the WISC seemed to have no impact, despite being high.


There are plenty of Asians/Indians in AAP program. This is the first time i am reading racial profiling could be the reason!!
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 23:23     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


Whites are obsessed with scamming their kids into AAP including bribing and cheating.


Asians are tiger moms and prep like hell starting in preschool.


Come on - why do we have to make this kind of generalization about whites and asians. I know white moms who prep and asian moms who can't care less about AAP or TJ.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 23:07     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


Whites are obsessed with scamming their kids into AAP including bribing and cheating.


Asians are tiger moms and prep like hell starting in preschool.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 22:08     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


This is one of the most absurd things I've seen on DCUM.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 21:52     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


This is one of the most absurd things I've seen on DCUM.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 21:47     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


Whites are obsessed with scamming their kids into AAP including bribing and cheating.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 21:43     Subject: AAP appeal declined

I would just send the child to the local public school and reapply. FCPS schools are very good, so your child will get a great education while you wait to hear about AAP.

What does it mean to "take" a score?
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 20:29     Subject: Re:AAP appeal declined

AAP is barely advanced at our school. I can't imagine someone doing all this for a mediocre advanced program.
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 20:10     Subject: AAP appeal declined

Anonymous wrote:When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.


The people looking at appeals are not from the child's school. They would have no clue if the description is accurate. Having said that, why would someone go through all that for AAP? And how do you get a 7 or 8 year old to pull off pretending to be someone else? I would never ask my kid to lie like that, but I'm also pretty sure they wouldn't pull it off with an adult asking them questions about their identity. You probably shouldn't have posted this. No need to give obsessed people ideas
Anonymous
Post 02/09/2018 19:54     Subject: AAP appeal declined

When we took our ds in for private testing for the wisc the tester made sure to do a big write up at the front end where she described his appearance, reported answers to personal questions she asked him, etc. When I asked why, she said it was to help the school identify him, as there is apparently a flourishing trade in fake Wisc takers (or, you hire a kid who kind of looks like yours and who has taken it before and is really good and present him as your own). This is especially in the TJ mania part of FCPS.