Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:18     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
The kids are not obsessed. They are naturally curious about one another and asking a friends age - at recess, camp, sports, art - is an easy get-to-know-you question. It’s usually one of the first things my daughter would tell me when she met someone new (I met grace and she’s 8!) either because she was happy to know someone her age or because she was impressed someone older would play with her. It’s normal.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:16     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
This has never come up with DD or her friends -- seriously. I don't know where you guys live that everyone is so obsessed with this.


Doesn't your DD know how old her friends are? I bet if you asked her if Jane is 7 or 8, or 9 or 10, that she'd know.


Sure she knows that -- but she doesn't know if that makes someone redshirted...
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:15     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
This has never come up with DD or her friends -- seriously. I don't know where you guys live that everyone is so obsessed with this.


Doesn't your DD know how old her friends are? I bet if you asked her if Jane is 7 or 8, or 9 or 10, that she'd know.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:14     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The kids all know - mostly because in the early years they ask one another basic questions like this. I was at a Cub Scout den meeting once and the presenter referenced the ages of the group and the entire den pointed at the kids who were older and said, “no, so-and-so’s” x age” - not because they were trying to out anyone but because kids at young ages are literal. In 4th grade, I do hear kids talk about the ages of other kids and they are absolutely catching on that it is an advantage - especially for boys as they begin to realize physical differences and the advantages of being a year older in growth. One of my kids frequently brings up that they are the youngest in their class. They all know.


This has never come up with DD or her friends -- seriously. I don't know where you guys live that everyone is so obsessed with this.


Maybe there just aren't a lot of redshirted kids where we live....
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:11     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:The kids all know - mostly because in the early years they ask one another basic questions like this. I was at a Cub Scout den meeting once and the presenter referenced the ages of the group and the entire den pointed at the kids who were older and said, “no, so-and-so’s” x age” - not because they were trying to out anyone but because kids at young ages are literal. In 4th grade, I do hear kids talk about the ages of other kids and they are absolutely catching on that it is an advantage - especially for boys as they begin to realize physical differences and the advantages of being a year older in growth. One of my kids frequently brings up that they are the youngest in their class. They all know.


This has never come up with DD or her friends -- seriously. I don't know where you guys live that everyone is so obsessed with this.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:10     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
The kids all know - mostly because in the early years they ask one another basic questions like this. I was at a Cub Scout den meeting once and the presenter referenced the ages of the group and the entire den pointed at the kids who were older and said, “no, so-and-so’s” x age” - not because they were trying to out anyone but because kids at young ages are literal. In 4th grade, I do hear kids talk about the ages of other kids and they are absolutely catching on that it is an advantage - especially for boys as they begin to realize physical differences and the advantages of being a year older in growth. One of my kids frequently brings up that they are the youngest in their class. They all know.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:04     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:And my DD is a non-red shirted summer birthday and I sure wish she had other younger girls like yours in her class to play and learn with. I agree - tough when others are nearly a year or more older! If everyone played by the rules there would be a natural evening out of ages throughout the year. As it is, the grades are always stacked with older kids


If my DD has a different personality I would have put her on time. If she were like DD2 who is tough and does not care about being left out and always wants to be at the center and loves attention I would have been happy to send her on time. I may try to send my DD2 early (late October birthday) because I think she would thrive among older kids. It’s really not about the grades for me, but about their own happiness and feeling of fitting in.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 14:01     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:Some newbie kindergarten teacher sent out a clas birthday list way back when. Not that it would matter as by 3rd/4th grade all the kids talk anyway and some are dc friends so it’s all confirmed through those relationships. There are no secrets by 4th grade. Add in that The red shirted kids tend not to have birthday parties with classmates because parents don’t want to send a “come celebrate fred’s X-th birthday” invite outing the age. Others do and don’t care if you know their age. Mostly, the kids themselves talk about their age so it’s hardly a secret.


My child is in fourth and I have no idea who is red-shirted. There are 5 fourth grade classes at our school - there is no way I could possibly know this information.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:56     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Some newbie kindergarten teacher sent out a clas birthday list way back when. Not that it would matter as by 3rd/4th grade all the kids talk anyway and some are dc friends so it’s all confirmed through those relationships. There are no secrets by 4th grade. Add in that The red shirted kids tend not to have birthday parties with classmates because parents don’t want to send a “come celebrate fred’s X-th birthday” invite outing the age. Others do and don’t care if you know their age. Mostly, the kids themselves talk about their age so it’s hardly a secret.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:55     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At public and not an exaggeration at all. Becomes more of an issue as time goes on including that half the g &t class consists of redshirted kids.

But hey, Go Yale B’s, right?


How do you know everyone's birthday?


I always wonder that too. Not just birthday, but birth year.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:47     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:At public and not an exaggeration at all. Becomes more of an issue as time goes on including that half the g &t class consists of redshirted kids.

But hey, Go Yale B’s, right?


How do you know everyone's birthday?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:46     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
At public and not an exaggeration at all. Becomes more of an issue as time goes on including that half the g &t class consists of redshirted kids.

But hey, Go Yale B’s, right?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:45     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:And my DD is a non-red shirted summer birthday and I sure wish she had other younger girls like yours in her class to play and learn with. I agree - tough when others are nearly a year or more older! If everyone played by the rules there would be a natural evening out of ages throughout the year. As it is, the grades are always stacked with older kids


My DD is one of the oldest in her grade and her bestie is one of the youngest. I don't think its that big of a deal to make friends with kids a little bit younger or older...
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:43     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:And my DD is a non-red shirted summer birthday and I sure wish she had other younger girls like yours in her class to play and learn with. I agree - tough when others are nearly a year or more older! If everyone played by the rules there would be a natural evening out of ages throughout the year. As it is, the grades are always stacked with older kids


Not really. Births are seasonal. I don't know why, but they are.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 13:33     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:And my DD is a non-red shirted summer birthday and I sure wish she had other younger girls like yours in her class to play and learn with. I agree - tough when others are nearly a year or more older! If everyone played by the rules there would be a natural evening out of ages throughout the year. As it is, the grades are always stacked with older kids


exaggeration -- unless you are at private school