Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:39     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric

Sounds like Trump is caving. He invited Chuck to the White House to talk shutdown. Trump really wants to get down to Mar a Lago!
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:38     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:Do you really think most Americans think Dreamers are more important than soldiers and sick children?

Maybe, Dem Senators need to rethink this.

Suddenly the GOP cares about sick children? Since when?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:33     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:I think the strong suit for Republicans is to say that Democrats are willing to hold to ransom the interests of 300 million Americans to legalize 800K DACA recipients who came to this country illegally and whose future is no in jeopardy for now, given that the federal courts have stayed any action with regard to them.

I also feel that this should be the pretext for changing the senate rules to eliminate the filibuster for legislation.


So undo 230 years of rules because you can't compromise. It wasn't right when Harry Reid did it; it wasn't right when McConnell did it for Trump nominees and it isn't right now.

Our country is forged on compromise. Suspending rules may not even get the 51 votes needed. Right now, there are barely 48. Do you suggest imposing a "40 rule" vote to get your way instead?
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:30     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

I think the strong suit for Republicans is to say that Democrats are willing to hold to ransom the interests of 300 million Americans to legalize 800K DACA recipients who came to this country illegally and whose future is no in jeopardy for now, given that the federal courts have stayed any action with regard to them.

I also feel that this should be the pretext for changing the senate rules to eliminate the filibuster for legislation.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:26     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric

I blame Mexico. If Trump kept his promise about making Mexico pay, we wouldn’t be here.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:19     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:#SchumerShutdown


Nice try, Mr. Speaker, but only the morons are buying what you are trying to sell.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:18     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

#SchumerShutdown
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:15     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

95% chance of a shut down. DJT is running out of the city at 4pm, the GOP can't even get all their members to vote for it. A bunch of whimps who control 3 branches of government can't get their sh#t together.

It's done.

My prediction? Trump will sign the bipartisan Graham-Durbin bill next week, after he gets thrashed by the public. Cuck'd.


I agree with this.


Not a chance. Not when the USAToday reported that there are possibly 3.6 million Dreamers in this country —not the 800k politicians are touting now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/18/there-3-5-m-dreamers-and-most-may-face-nightmare/1042134001/


Meh, I beg to differ. The Graham-Durbin deal will be passed. It's a good start for immigration reform and DJT will take whatever wins he can get.

The bipartisan bill would:
-Allow DACA recipients and other Dreamers who are too old to qualify for DACA to eventually get a green card and apply for citizenship if they meet the length of time, educational, and criminal requirements
-Ends chain migration for DACA recipients and other Dreamers; their parents could get a renewable long-term visa but would never qualify for a Green Card or citizenship
-Diversity lottery eliminated and those 50,000 visas reallocated based on merit or other tangible criteria (no more luck involved)
-A couple billion dollars (single digit) for increasing border security

If Trump was wise, he would take this deal and then continue working to get more money down the road for his dumb wall. It would remove the DACA headache, which 85% of US citizens want to see resolved.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:13     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric

A tweet for every occasion

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/387322936350105600

My sense is that people are far angrier at the President than they are at Congress re the shutdown—an interesting turn!
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:10     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:Do you really think most Americans think Dreamers are more important than soldiers and sick children?

Maybe, Dem Senators need to rethink this.


Soldiers aren’t affected. That’s a myth. The whole problem here is that Mexico isn’t paying for the wall.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:09     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:Do you really think most Americans think Dreamers are more important than soldiers and sick children?

Maybe, Dem Senators need to rethink this.


Soldiers are essential.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:07     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Do you really think most Americans think Dreamers are more important than soldiers and sick children?

Maybe, Dem Senators need to rethink this.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:05     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

95% chance of a shut down. DJT is running out of the city at 4pm, the GOP can't even get all their members to vote for it. A bunch of whimps who control 3 branches of government can't get their sh#t together.

It's done.

My prediction? Trump will sign the bipartisan Graham-Durbin bill next week, after he gets thrashed by the public. Cuck'd.


I agree with this.


Not a chance. Not when the USAToday reported that there are possibly 3.6 million Dreamers in this country —not the 800k politicians are touting now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/18/there-3-5-m-dreamers-and-most-may-face-nightmare/1042134001/
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2018 12:05     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Odds that the govt shuts down? Doesn't look good for staying open? I am a contractor with a fed agency and am supposed to be at a conference next week...


95% chance of a shut down. DJT is running out of the city at 4pm, the GOP can't even get all their members to vote for it. A bunch of whimps who control 3 branches of government can't get their sh#t together.

It's done.

My prediction? Trump will sign the bipartisan Graham-Durbin bill next week, after he gets thrashed by the public. Cuck'd.


POTUS has graciously decided to stay in DC until tomorrow-ish, rather than somehow "virtually" signing a CR or budget by Twitter, as originally stated.


That was such an insane, half-baked scheme. I was watching the news and the reporters were wide-eyed as they read their script on his "Twitter" signing.