Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:57
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
From its adoption first by white nationalists, and then by 4chan trolls intent on ‘triggering the libs,’ the well-known hand signal’s use points to deeper concerns.
The smirk that almost inevitably accompanies the “OK” sign, that simplest of hand signals, is the dead giveaway in the shroud of internet-age befuddlement: Does the sign, the thumb and forefinger joined together in a circle, the remaining three fingers splayed out behind, mean “all’s good?” Or does it mean “white power” instead?
The smirk gives away the proper answer: You’re being trolled.
The social-media-driven controversy over the meaning of the well-known hand sign has arisen in part as the result of a deliberate hoax concocted on the internet message board 4chan, which in addition to its well-earned reputation as a gateway to the racist “alt-right” is perhaps more broadly known as the home of trolling culture.
So when it gets flashed during a national broadcast, or during a video being shot to promote the Coast Guard, or by a cluster of Proud Boys and “Patriots,” what it’s about most of the time is a deliberate attempt to “trigger liberals” into overreacting to a gesture so widely used that virtually anyone has plausible deniability built into their use of it in the first place.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll
The smirk that almost inevitably accompanies the “OK” sign, that simplest of hand signals, is the dead giveaway in the shroud of internet-age befuddlement: Does the sign, the thumb and forefinger joined together in a circle, the remaining three fingers splayed out behind, mean “all’s good?” Or does it mean “white power” instead?
The smirk gives away the proper answer: You’re being trolled.
The social-media-driven controversy over the meaning of the well-known hand sign has arisen in part as the result of a deliberate hoax concocted on the internet message board 4chan, which in addition to its well-earned reputation as a gateway to the racist “alt-right” is perhaps more broadly known as the home of trolling culture.
So when it gets flashed during a national broadcast, or during a video being shot to promote the Coast Guard, or by a cluster of Proud Boys and “Patriots,” what it’s about most of the time is a deliberate attempt to “trigger liberals” into overreacting to a gesture so widely used that virtually anyone has plausible deniability built into their use of it in the first place.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white-power-symbol-or-just-right-wing-troll
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:55
Subject: Re:WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
White Power (hand sign)
Some white supremacists, particularly in California, may use a two-handed handsign in which one hand forms the letter "W" and the other hand forms the letter "P," to represent WP or "White Power."
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/white-power-hand-sign
https://www.adl.org/education-and-resources/resource-knowledge-base/hate-symbols?cat_id%5B153%5D=153
The actual professional hate sign deciders have an actual data base of white power hand signs.
I know, I know, do any of them post here? Why not? Do they even check these threads for expertise and info?
Sadly- no.
But anyway, continue your goofy thread. But don’t pretend that other people think “ok” is a hate symbol. It’s either actually really ok, or you are being triggered and trolled. The actual white power hand signals are shown at the link.
Some white supremacists, particularly in California, may use a two-handed handsign in which one hand forms the letter "W" and the other hand forms the letter "P," to represent WP or "White Power."
https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/white-power-hand-sign
https://www.adl.org/education-and-resources/resource-knowledge-base/hate-symbols?cat_id%5B153%5D=153
The actual professional hate sign deciders have an actual data base of white power hand signs.
I know, I know, do any of them post here? Why not? Do they even check these threads for expertise and info?
Sadly- no.
But anyway, continue your goofy thread. But don’t pretend that other people think “ok” is a hate symbol. It’s either actually really ok, or you are being triggered and trolled. The actual white power hand signals are shown at the link.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:46
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
As a representative from reality, I’d like to let the liberal posters of dcum know that what is posted anonymously here does not, thankfully, actually define anything in the outside world.
If dcum is going to insist inside this forum that all white people using the “ok” symbol are advocates of white supremacy, so be it.
However, IRL, when you see people using “ok,” please take a look around you and observe you are not on the dcum politics forum. The people out there are actual humans with lives and jobs and families; not hyper-partisan nut-jobs who shriek in fear when they see a frog, an ok hand sign, or an American flag.
You may now resume your hysterical posting.
If dcum is going to insist inside this forum that all white people using the “ok” symbol are advocates of white supremacy, so be it.
However, IRL, when you see people using “ok,” please take a look around you and observe you are not on the dcum politics forum. The people out there are actual humans with lives and jobs and families; not hyper-partisan nut-jobs who shriek in fear when they see a frog, an ok hand sign, or an American flag.
You may now resume your hysterical posting.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:28
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:The "OK" gesture is a trolling attempt. Don't feed the trolls.
Regardless of whether or not it's a trolling attempt, it means "White Power"
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:26
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:35]
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan.[36] The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan's "/pol/" (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed "Operation O-KKK".[37] The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a 'W' and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a 'P', together standing for "white power".[38] While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives.[39] In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture.[37][40][41][42] For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018.[43][44] In March 2019 Idaho Lt. Governor Janice McGeachin received considerable criticism for posing with members of the 3 Percenter right-wing militia group outside of her office who made the gesture. [45][46][47] Also in March 2019, white nationalist Brenton Tarrant flashed the sign to cameras in a New Zealand courtroom during his arraignment for the mass-shooting of people at two mosques in Christchurch.
[48].
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
Most white ppl do it as a troll gesture. It obviously works well.
It works so well that it's taken on a new meaning. Congratulations.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:25
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
ADL says it’s not white power unless the person has clear white supremacy ties or activities.
Owning the libs isn’t white supremacy.
That article was nearly two years ago. Since then, Heather Hayer was killed by white surpremacists in Charlottesville and now a white supremacist in NZ has killed 50 in two mosques. All these perps were flashing the "OK" symbol. You're not owning libs; you're making your tribal alliances known loud and clear for all others to see.
Enjoy the white supremacist gang sign. You can have it.
Since then too, BLM stupidity has resulted in around 6,000 additional murders, disproportionate black.
I hope you already burned the hateful t-shirts and signs.
Then you can come back to pretend to care about 50 people.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:21
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
The "OK" gesture is a trolling attempt. Don't feed the trolls.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 14:04
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
ADL says it’s not white power unless the person has clear white supremacy ties or activities.
Owning the libs isn’t white supremacy.
That article was nearly two years ago. Since then, Heather Hayer was killed by white surpremacists in Charlottesville and now a white supremacist in NZ has killed 50 in two mosques. All these perps were flashing the "OK" symbol. You're not owning libs; you're making your tribal alliances known loud and clear for all others to see.
Enjoy the white supremacist gang sign. You can have it.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 13:34
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
ADL says it’s not white power unless the person has clear white supremacy ties or activities.
Owning the libs isn’t white supremacy.
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
ADL says it’s not white power unless the person has clear white supremacy ties or activities.
Owning the libs isn’t white supremacy.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 13:30
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
35]
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan.[36] The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan's "/pol/" (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed "Operation O-KKK".[37] The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a 'W' and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a 'P', together standing for "white power".[38] While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives.[39] In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture.[37][40][41][42] For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018.[43][44] In March 2019 Idaho Lt. Governor Janice McGeachin received considerable criticism for posing with members of the 3 Percenter right-wing militia group outside of her office who made the gesture. [45][46][47] Also in March 2019, white nationalist Brenton Tarrant flashed the sign to cameras in a New Zealand courtroom during his arraignment for the mass-shooting of people at two mosques in Christchurch.
[48].
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
Most white ppl do it as a troll gesture. It obviously works well.
White power symbol
In 2017, the OK gesture was at the center of an online prank in meme culture related to alt-right and white supremacy originating from anonymous message board posts on the website 4chan.[36] The Boston Globe reported that users on 4chan's "/pol/" (Politically Incorrect) board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy,” as part of a campaign dubbed "Operation O-KKK".[37] The association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a 'W' and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a 'P', together standing for "white power".[38] While some members of the alt-right used the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives.[39] In May 2017, the Anti-Defamation League published an article asking:
Has the simple thumb-and-forefinger 'OK' hand gesture become a common white supremacist hand sign? Not quite, but it has become a popular gesture used by people across several segments of the right and far right—including some actual white supremacists—who generally use it to trigger reactions. [...] Only if the gesture occurs in context with other clear indicators of white supremacy can one draw that conclusion.[38]
By 2018, a number of people were accused of signaling support for white supremacist ideology in publicly displaying the gesture.[37][40][41][42] For example, the U.S. Coast Guard disciplined an employee who conspicuously made this gesture in the background of a newscast in September 2018.[43][44] In March 2019 Idaho Lt. Governor Janice McGeachin received considerable criticism for posing with members of the 3 Percenter right-wing militia group outside of her office who made the gesture. [45][46][47] Also in March 2019, white nationalist Brenton Tarrant flashed the sign to cameras in a New Zealand courtroom during his arraignment for the mass-shooting of people at two mosques in Christchurch.
[48].
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture
Most white ppl do it as a troll gesture. It obviously works well.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 13:25
Subject: Re:WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:Roger Stone hanging with The Proud Boys in Oregon after they were engaged in street fighting:
Wait. I thought Roger Stone was confine d to travel between Florida and DC for court appearances. What was he doing in Oregon? Why isn’t this an issue? He violated the terms of his bail . And there he is engaging in hate speech.
Anonymous
03/18/2019 09:28
Subject: Re:WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Putting this back at the top of the forum, since conservatives are arguing in other threads that the gaslighting hand gesture "means nothing!"
Come on back in here and debate, despite the avalanche of evidence.
"Tarrant, who made a 'white power' gesture during his court appearance on Saturday (pictured), has so far been charged with just one count of murder. Police are expected to lay more charges against the accused gunman in the coming days."
Come on back in here and debate, despite the avalanche of evidence.
"Tarrant, who made a 'white power' gesture during his court appearance on Saturday (pictured), has so far been charged with just one count of murder. Police are expected to lay more charges against the accused gunman in the coming days."
Anonymous
03/17/2019 08:15
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, white nationalists we're gaslighting when they said, "oh, it's just an ok sign."
This is everyone else's sign not to trust conservatives and their "harmless" memes.
Tell us about chemtrails now.
Wtf?
We're talking about bonafide white nationalists here, being supported by the Republican Party, in public. Not conspiracy theories.
Actual pictures of people, making actual handsigns, which are then seen being made by white nationalists before they go off and kill lots and lots of innocent people. That is fact, after yesterday, not a conspiracy theory.
DP. That you even have the arrogance to equate the nutter white nationalists with mainstream, everyday Republicans, is astounding. I guess the Democratic party is supporting Antifa, right? I mean, using your "logic" and all.
Well, then repudiate them. The Democrats say that in no uncertain terms "antifa" is not part of the party and is not supported. Let all your friends know you don't support this. The problem is Republicans aren't doing this.
You've got it backwards. Find some antifa activists who openly support and praise the Democratic party and who run as Democrats. Thanks.
Crickets
+1
Anonymous
03/17/2019 07:50
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, white nationalists we're gaslighting when they said, "oh, it's just an ok sign."
This is everyone else's sign not to trust conservatives and their "harmless" memes.
Tell us about chemtrails now.
Wtf?
We're talking about bonafide white nationalists here, being supported by the Republican Party, in public. Not conspiracy theories.
Actual pictures of people, making actual handsigns, which are then seen being made by white nationalists before they go off and kill lots and lots of innocent people. That is fact, after yesterday, not a conspiracy theory.
DP. That you even have the arrogance to equate the nutter white nationalists with mainstream, everyday Republicans, is astounding. I guess the Democratic party is supporting Antifa, right? I mean, using your "logic" and all.
Well, then repudiate them. The Democrats say that in no uncertain terms "antifa" is not part of the party and is not supported. Let all your friends know you don't support this. The problem is Republicans aren't doing this.
That is absolutely incorrect. Of course Republicans repudiate white nationalists. Do you think the white nationalists care?? Nope. They'll align themselves with whomever they choose. It's not as if anyone can prevent them from voting for their chosen candidate. Get real.
If the white supremacists support certain politicians/policies - doesn’t that make you question your own belief in those politicians/policies? Isn’t it....odd.....if you have the same goals?
I'll answer this - no. Why? Because it's a knee jerk response. Extremists like white supremacists have a tendency to twist events and words to make them fit their own agenda. In addition, both can be against, say, illegal immigration, but the reasons why can be completely different. It's why you also see some Democrats not in favor of illegal immigrants. Members of violent left-wing groups might support Sanders but that doesn't mean Sanders is a violent man.
Consider the 'me too' movement that has essentially devolved into 'if accused, you must be guilty'.
Anonymous
03/17/2019 07:44
Subject: WH intern flashes notorious "white power" hand gesture in White House intern Xmas pic with DJT
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yeah, white nationalists we're gaslighting when they said, "oh, it's just an ok sign."
This is everyone else's sign not to trust conservatives and their "harmless" memes.
Tell us about chemtrails now.
Wtf?
We're talking about bonafide white nationalists here, being supported by the Republican Party, in public. Not conspiracy theories.
Actual pictures of people, making actual handsigns, which are then seen being made by white nationalists before they go off and kill lots and lots of innocent people. That is fact, after yesterday, not a conspiracy theory.
DP. That you even have the arrogance to equate the nutter white nationalists with mainstream, everyday Republicans, is astounding. I guess the Democratic party is supporting Antifa, right? I mean, using your "logic" and all.
Well, then repudiate them. The Democrats say that in no uncertain terms "antifa" is not part of the party and is not supported. Let all your friends know you don't support this. The problem is Republicans aren't doing this.
You've got it backwards. Find some antifa activists who openly support and praise the Democratic party and who run as Democrats. Thanks.
Crickets