Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:58     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


I'm not blaming the victims...what Harvey did was wrong.

But what respectable woman takes a meeting in a man's hotel room? Befuddling. Meet in an office. Meet in a restaurant.


You’ve got to be kidding me.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:53     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


I'm not blaming the victims...what Harvey did was wrong.

But what respectable woman takes a meeting in a man's hotel room? Befuddling. Meet in an office. Meet in a restaurant.


Seriously, he is a high powered Hollywood guy that could make your career. He would meet in the hotel lobby and somehow convince these girls that the "script" was in his room. Or he had a female assistant in the room to make the victims feel safe then he would excuse the assistant. He had tricks to get them to his room. Heck, he even cornered them in the hallways and jerk off. People didn't come out against him for fear of retaliation or being sued for libel. Or being blacklisted in the industry. In numbers, these women feel safe to come out. I hate to think of all the young women the casting couch has taken. I hope he goes to jail. I hope it's a wake up call to the predators in Hollywood to stop this behavior.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:51     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


DP. It is a good question. Asking a good question does not mean one is blaming the victim. I teach my twelve year old son not to walk down certain streets because of the known dangers. That doesn't mean I would blame him if he was robbed or attacked while walking down that street. I'm teaching him not to intentionally place himself in a position of becoming a victim. I think that is what PPP was asking.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:49     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


I'm not blaming the victims...what Harvey did was wrong.

But what respectable woman takes a meeting in a man's hotel room? Befuddling. Meet in an office. Meet in a restaurant.

Apparently he told these young, naive aspiring actresses that there would be some sort of (industry) event.

Harvey Weinstein must be another pathological liar.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:44     Subject: Re:Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:He's fired and many more women coming forward. The men that have stood by and let this greedy, sex abuser thrive all these years should feel shame.


There were plenty of women too. They should be doubly ashamed.


Anjelilina Jolie said he harassed her and she tried warning other women, but they ignored her.


Honestly, Angelina Jolie's behaviour back in the day when this would have happened would have made me disbelieve/disregard her claims too- the blood with Billy Bob, the making out with her brother, etc. Plus, she wasn't some aspiring starlet from parents who waited at a WalMart in Arkansas- she had Hollywood power and connections behind her in her family. If she was going to tell someone, why the heck wouldn't she have told them - who might at least have had the power to do something about it.



You contradict yourself. First you said you wouldn't have believed her. Then you state why didn't she tell someone. She did tell someone. She told any female who would listen. Apparently, they took your first advice and didn't believe her. She also said she chose to never not work with him again. I guess that was her way of dealing with it.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:40     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS


I'm not blaming the victims...what Harvey did was wrong.

But what respectable woman takes a meeting in a man's hotel room? Befuddling. Meet in an office. Meet in a restaurant.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:39     Subject: Re:Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Say it isn't so. Disgusting Weinstein even got good guy Matt Damon involved in his coverup.


MAtt Damon is a misongynist turd, what are you talking about?


No Meryl Streep is a misogynistic thug. Weinstein made her and she knew.


Nope. Meryl goes all the way back to award winning "Deer Hunter". She predates Harvey. I don't know if she knew or not. And neither do you.


There's knowing and not-knowing, right? For example, I used to work with a guy who was never anything but respectful to me (though I disliked him for his complete incompetence). I'm not a big talker at work beyond work stuff. But gradually over the years, as in several years after I started working with him, I started hearing stories. So-and-so told me that her officemate said that Larlo stared at her breasts. Another woman said she heard through the grapevine that Larlo made inappropriate comments. Someone else said she heard he yelled a lot and harassed female staff. That sort of thing. I never experienced it, never witnessed it, never talked to anyone who admitted experiencing it first-hand, but after a few years it was sort of an atmospheric thing where everyone knew there had been talk, but no one ever made formal allegations. And we are all employment lawyers so you'd think someone would have made allegations, but when it's your job and reputation on the line, it's not so easy.

Meryl predates Harvey and has power in her own right, and likely has had a completely different experience of interacting with him. Also, he seems to go for young vulnerable girls and she hasn't been that for a long time. She'd tell him where to shove it if he tried, and he would know that.

I can well believe that she didn't know for sure, but that she knew the rumors, but perhaps never took any steps to satisfy herself of their truth because -- let's be honest -- most people in this kind of situation don't. People look out for themselves and their immediate friends and that's about it. Particularly in an industry where there are power brokers and knowing someone is the ticket to success.


So everyone knew but no one knew? She knew. Everyone who was in the industry knew. It is get ridiculous. People are now just picking their favorite actors and saying they did not know. Everyone knew. It was not a secret.


now you speak for everyone. Go on with your bad self. You are so all-knowing.

On a different note, I think there are some who knew and kept the secret to themselves. These are people known as the Paltrows. There were some who heard rumors that he used the casting couch method and called other women whores for using it. These women are called the Lohans. And then there were people who were successfully and victims of the Lohan rumors and may or may not used the practice. These women are called the Lawrences. Additionally there were people who knew and kept the secret for a profit. These people walked away with NDAs and confidentiality clause settlements, so they did not talk. Another group of people knew and individually warned women, known as the Jolie's. Finally there were some who heard whispers but dismissed them because after all Weinstein was their friend and he had never shown the propensity of such vile behavior toward them or anyone else they called friend. They deemed such ripumours born out of jealousy to bring Weinstein down. After all, people had started vile, vicious, hateful lies about them so why would they believe such garbage about a friend - escpecially a friend who had always been so kind. These people are called the Obamas and Streeps.

I know I have friends that I would defend to the end. I would call you a dirty, filthy, no good, jealous, lying heifer for suggesting my good brined was a despicable, rapacious, sexual abuser, and be dismayed and dumbstruck at how blind and gullible I was as his friend. But, just because my friend was proved to be as bad as reported would not mean that I had known all along.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:30     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
Anonymous wrote:Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?


CAN YOU NOT BLAME VICTIMS
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:30     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
Why did these women agree to meet with him in his hotel room? Who does that?
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:20     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
It's too bad that actresses like Paltrow and Jolie didn't speak out much earlier once they had achieved positions of power. They might have prevented all these less-fortunate women from this pervert.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:17     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Latest news: wife is leaving him. She was probably just waiting for a reason to file.


She waited to leave when it blew up and became embarrassing for her to stay. She's as bad as all the actors who waited to speak up.


+ 1,000,000

She thinks this will save her brand. Not.
Donna Karan is in the toilet with her.
Shame on them all.


Donna Karan doesn't own her brand. She sold it a couple years ago. She won't be hurt, but her name brand will.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 08:05     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/10/matt-damon-harvey-weinstein-sexual-harassment-rape-statement-1201885766/amp/

Matt Damon says "I'm not the story here"
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 07:43     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
Harvey didn't even try to hide his conquests.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 07:42     Subject: Harvey Weinstein
I don't work in any related industry. Even when the story broke I thought this wasn't an "everyone knows" secret, this has been documented. Had no idea this was news.

I hate people who said nothing when it actually mattered piling on now. There is a writer who has admitted that he said nothing about Cosby when it would hurt his career. He piled on when it would help his career.
Anonymous
Post 10/11/2017 07:33     Subject: Re:Harvey Weinstein
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Anonymous wrote:Say it isn't so. Disgusting Weinstein even got good guy Matt Damon involved in his coverup.


MAtt Damon is a misongynist turd, what are you talking about?


No Meryl Streep is a misogynistic thug. Weinstein made her and she knew.


Nope. Meryl goes all the way back to award winning "Deer Hunter". She predates Harvey. I don't know if she knew or not. And neither do you.


There's knowing and not-knowing, right? For example, I used to work with a guy who was never anything but respectful to me (though I disliked him for his complete incompetence). I'm not a big talker at work beyond work stuff. But gradually over the years, as in several years after I started working with him, I started hearing stories. So-and-so told me that her officemate said that Larlo stared at her breasts. Another woman said she heard through the grapevine that Larlo made inappropriate comments. Someone else said she heard he yelled a lot and harassed female staff. That sort of thing. I never experienced it, never witnessed it, never talked to anyone who admitted experiencing it first-hand, but after a few years it was sort of an atmospheric thing where everyone knew there had been talk, but no one ever made formal allegations. And we are all employment lawyers so you'd think someone would have made allegations, but when it's your job and reputation on the line, it's not so easy.

Meryl predates Harvey and has power in her own right, and likely has had a completely different experience of interacting with him. Also, he seems to go for young vulnerable girls and she hasn't been that for a long time. She'd tell him where to shove it if he tried, and he would know that.

I can well believe that she didn't know for sure, but that she knew the rumors, but perhaps never took any steps to satisfy herself of their truth because -- let's be honest -- most people in this kind of situation don't. People look out for themselves and their immediate friends and that's about it. Particularly in an industry where there are power brokers and knowing someone is the ticket to success.


So everyone knew but no one knew? She knew. Everyone who was in the industry knew. It is get ridiculous. People are now just picking their favorite actors and saying they did not know. Everyone knew. It was not a secret.


How do you know this?


I worked in a related industry and it was common knowledge.