Anonymous wrote:I just had a friend tell me that in Switzerland there is a language test to be admitted to a public school. If you don't pass, you are sent to a so called integration school. Once you have learned the language, you can go to a regular public school.
I think this is smart, bright kids who just haven't been in the country long enough to have learned the language can quickly test out, while all kinds of slow learners can get supports without hindering other kids' education.

Are you saying that if you don't know another language than you are slow? If so, than there are a lot of "slow" Americans who don't know any other language but English!

Anonymous wrote:I just had a friend tell me that in Switzerland there is a language test to be admitted to a public school. If you don't pass, you are sent to a so called integration school. Once you have learned the language, you can go to a regular public school.
I think this is smart, bright kids who just haven't been in the country long enough to have learned the language can quickly test out, while all kinds of slow learners can get supports without hindering other kids' education.

Your friend doesn't know what he/she is talking about
http://www.expatica.com/ch/education/Education-in-Switzerland_100021.html

Anonymous wrote:I just had a friend tell me that in Switzerland there is a language test to be admitted to a public school. If you don't pass, you are sent to a so called integration school. Once you have learned the language, you can go to a regular public school.
I think this is smart, bright kids who just haven't been in the country long enough to have learned the language can quickly test out, while all kinds of slow learners can get supports without hindering other kids' education.

Then move to Switzerland.

Anonymous wrote:I just had a friend tell me that in Switzerland there is a language test to be admitted to a public school. If you don't pass, you are sent to a so called integration school. Once you have learned the language, you can go to a regular public school.
I think this is smart, bright kids who just haven't been in the country long enough to have learned the language can quickly test out, while all kinds of slow learners can get supports without hindering other kids' education.

Doesn't seem like something that would pass the Brown vs the Board of Education decision.

And how would it save money to have to bus English language Learners to special schools?

I just had a friend tell me that in Switzerland there is a language test to be admitted to a public school. If you don't pass, you are sent to a so called integration school. Once you have learned the language, you can go to a regular public school.
I think this is smart, bright kids who just haven't been in the country long enough to have learned the language can quickly test out, while all kinds of slow learners can get supports without hindering other kids' education.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you just need to read a book like "Prayer for the City" to understand how racial covenants, redlining, race restricted lending and block busting, not to mention urban renewal, created our ghettos by deliberately limiting the housing opportunities available to blacks.

Anyone with a decent reading and understanding of American history would know that.

Hey BYATCH, STFU with your Oprah book club recommendations. Yes, racist policies contributed to the ghettos, but the black community is doing a fabulous job of maintaining the high standards of the hood.

So why have some blacks made it and others haven't;. Its 2017 at what point will people quit playing the victim card and making excuses for people instead of taking ownership for their PERSONAL decisions

Having kids as teenagers absent fathers and constantly yelling and cussing instead of talking has nothing to do with "racisim" it's all things that responsible people avoid

I reported your racist comments.
Nothing I can do about your blatant ignorance, but I can report your ridiculous comments

AWWWWWWWW, you poor baby. You cry racism when someone doesn't agree with you. Although there are many issues at play, not taking responsibility for ones actions is a huge factor that has contributed to the black community being in disarray. Liberals, stop giving them a free pass!

How do non-white (yes, even African) immigrants with zero language skills and zero money, become productive members of society? They work their asses off and make sacrifices. And they don't blame other people for their problems, which is a recipe for failure.

And stop "reporting" people you dweeb.

Everyone in Dallas with even modest money sends their kids to private school.

Anonymous wrote:Didn't illegals bankrupt Arizona public schools? After some reform, illegals fled and their school system ran a $50M surplus. Nobody wants to attend Dallas public schools because third world students who don't speak english soak all the resources.

I am wondering what the source of your information is about Arizona public schools?

Also, there are about 160,000 students in the Dallas Independent School District, so evidently it's not true that nobody wants to attend Dallas public schools.

Here's an interesting piece from just yesterday about desegregation efforts in the Dallas public schools: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/us/dallas-schools-desegregation.html

Didn't illegals bankrupt Arizona public schools? After some reform, illegals fled and their school system ran a $50M surplus. Nobody wants to attend Dallas public schools because third world students who don't speak english soak all the resources.

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Anonymous wrote:Two responses stuck out in this NYT piece on Dallas's awful public schools - and their desire to desegregate them, read: all the white and Asian kids attend private schools.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/us/dallas-schools-desegregation.html

"America's big educational problem is that it's running out of white children. Our ideologies still assume that America is a white-dominated country with only a small percentage of minorities, but the reality is that whites are rapidly heading toward being a minority too. So theories of solving the problems of blacks and Hispanics by diluting their troubles in the great mass of white children are out of date."

The other great response blamed Dallas's awful public schools squarely on illegal immigration. They est. half of their pupils are English second language immigrants.

ESOL explosion is happening to Fairfax and Montgomery Public Schools. Over 1/3 of each of the district is in the toilet and the extra costs for educating ESOL have caused yearly budget crisess

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Children are legally entitled to get a free and appropriate education. As long as they are here they should receive that education.

I personally do not believe it is a waste of money to give children a high-quality education. The more access to child has to quality education the less likely they will live in poverty and rely on government handouts or be incarcerated. Every time I hear a conservative argue that we are spending too much money on education ( particularly for special needs and English language learners) I question whether we really think about what is the cost-benefit analysis of not educating children.

The conversation about immigration is a whole other issue. The political will to either reform immigration or mass deport the undocumented just does not exist in Congress. Republicans are basically in a lose-lose situation where either option will cause them to loose voters

Anonymous wrote:The amount of racism on this thread is ASTOUNDING even by DCUM standards

It's really depressing and disgusting.

Anonymous wrote:This is a false choice. One can have both.

Agreed as I said many pages ago -- we have chosen both for our child.

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ESOL explosion is happening to Fairfax and Montgomery Public Schools. Over 1/3 of each of the district is in the toilet and the extra costs for educating ESOL have caused yearly budget crisis

T

But what are people actually doing about it? The people with money seem to just pack up and move, thus the absurd policies continue.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, you just need to read a book like "Prayer for the City" to understand how racial covenants, redlining, race restricted lending and block busting, not to mention urban renewal, created our ghettos by deliberately limiting the housing opportunities available to blacks.

Anyone with a decent reading and understanding of American history would know that.

Hey BYATCH, STFU with your Oprah book club recommendations. Yes, racist policies contributed to the ghettos, but the black community is doing a fabulous job of maintaining the high standards of the hood.

So why have some blacks made it and others haven't;. Its 2017 at what point will people quit playing the victim card and making excuses for people instead of taking ownership for their PERSONAL decisions

Having kids as teenagers absent fathers and constantly yelling and cussing instead of talking has nothing to do with "racisim" it's all things that responsible people avoid

I reported your racist comments.
Nothing I can do about your blatant ignorance, but I can report your ridiculous comments

The amount of racism on this thread is ASTOUNDING even by DCUM standards