I'm almost ashamed to have an opinion on this because last night's show was so stupid I can't believe I'm spending time thinking about it. But I am!

Lisa Rinna really needs to stop talking. She keeps bringing up the same old garbage and bringing everyone aside to have deep talks with them about the stupid things she says. Is it for more screen time, or does she really care about constantly beating dead horses?

Eileen used to be one of my favorites, but her obsession with the "right" kind of apology from LVP is out of control and very whiny. Looking back to the original LVP conversation that she found so offensive, it really wasn't such an awful thing. LVP was direct and not particularly sensitive, but she has always been that way. She seems genuinely curious and asks about people directly. It's not like she spilled some secret of Eileen's. But, whatever, Eileen was offended. LVP didn't get why, but she apologized at least a dozen times. But that's not enough for Eileen because it wasn't the apology *she* wanted. Here's a cluestick, Eileen. Humans are not always going to give us exactly what we want. At some point, you decide that what they give you is enough, or you distance yourself from them. Either way, you let it go. Because harping on people to validate you in the way you want is a non starter. Isn't her tagline something about not living according to other people's scripts? Take a lesson, E. Others don't live according to yours either. Or is this obsession about screen time and relevance, because she didn't have much else to offer this season?

Yolanda is just LOVING the constant attention to her illness and the Munchausen thing and is milking that for all it's worth. Another cluestick, Yo. Some people believe in your chronic Lyme. Others don't. NBD. If she's really ill, concentrating on getting better should be the only priority she has, not holding high court with her supporters or constantly challenging others. Oh, and that "I don't even know what that Munchausen thing is" is completely unbelievable. She googled the hell of that the first time it came up and is using it to garner all the sympathy in the world.

Oh, oh, oh, and did anyone catch the Andy Cohen after show with Yolanda and Erika? Yolanda looks great. Andy told her she looks great. And, she responded with how she was only having a good day. She's so invested in being sick. It made me notice that whenever anyone tells her she looks good...she talks about still being so sick but just had a good day. She needs to be seen as sick, especially now, since her creepy husband is divorcing her. Yet, she also needs to be miraculously well because otherwise she is irrelevant.

I find Kyle generally annoying, but think she is crafty and wise to let things go and enjoy her relationship with LVP and her sister. I like LVP because she doesn't give fucks about nonsense but does try not to be ridiculous. I also like that she projects an air of having better things to do than whine.

Erika is generally ok. Her relationship is a little strange, but she's living the dream and I like her confessionals. She's upfront and honest, but usually fair. Her devotion to Yolanda is a little weird, because Yo is a drama queen, and she says she doesn't like drama, but whatever. She also called out people when she needed to and then let it go.

Kathryn is as dumb as a box of rocks, yet, I sort of liked her towards the end. I sort of believe that her hearing made her come off extra irritating, but I also saw her trying to own up to her faults. I dunno. Jury's still out.

OMG, I had no idea I had such opinions. This may be the longest post I've ever made here and it is about the most insignificant thing.

This season sucked. They need to do something completely drastic with the cast. I personally think LVP sucks, but I just don't think she's going anywhere. My guess is people keep ganging up on her because she and her husband really are manipulative liars. Where there is smoke, there's fire.

Dear God, ditch Kathryn.

Just blech. And this used to be one of my favorite RHs too. I'm not watching anymore if LVP and Kyle are still the queen bees. Next.

I really think that the use of the word "affair" is a different thing to Europeans than Americans. When LVP said affair, I didn't hear it like an accusation, in the same way Eileen took it. I thought of more like, a love affair. Eileen badgering for a particular kind of apology is just childish. LVP apologized a few times - she should have just let it go. I don't blame LVP for just ending up telling Eileen what she wanted to hear to get her to shut the f up.

I'm so sick of everyone ganging up on LVP season after season. It's so boring. Do these women think that the way to be relevant on the show is to kick the crap out of the show favorite? I literally wish I was on the show sometimes to give weak losers like Rinna and Eileen the what for.

PS - I loathe Yolanda. All her angst this season is really just about David divorcing her for being sick (he's a bastard), but she didn't want to talk about it on camera at that time. That's what's underlying everything with her on film this season. The unspoken stuff going on behind the scenes in her marriage.

Did Lips McGee really just ask, "Why is Kim Richards here?"

Um...because this is her sister's house, and her sister's party? And she's an original cast member who knows all of these guests?

Why are YOU here, Rinna? H8

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone watch last night? Just when I keep thinking it can't get any sillier... that was no party, it was just another ridiculous excuse to get everyone in the same room to rehash the same old boring crap. I did love Kyle's house though!

I used to love Rinna, but she's gone too far now. What was up with her tsk-tsking Kim and telling her she hopes she (Kim) gets help? Hasn't Kim been in recovery for a long time now? I hated the way Rinna was staring at her, like she was a bad, bad child. Ugh. I see no reason for her to KEEP BRINGING UP Kim's sobriety/addiction. WTH?

Lisa R. just can't stop putting her foot in it. She should have left well enough alone long ago, but no, she keeps feeling the need to "speak her truth." If I were Yolanda, I would have told her to just drop the whole thing, already. She's like a dog w/a bone.

I am sick to death of the whole she said/she said nonsense re: Munchausen's, etc. Really, move on, ladies!

Couldn't agree more. This season wins the award for beating a dead horse. And usually Beverly Hills is my favorite series of the bunch. I could barely get through the episodes this season I was so bored with the same crap over and over.

+2 i watched some of last night but eh. i'm over them.

I think Rinna loves how superior she can be to Kim -- it's a power thing and Rinna knows she can make Kim feel about 1" tall.

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone watch last night? Just when I keep thinking it can't get any sillier... that was no party, it was just another ridiculous excuse to get everyone in the same room to rehash the same old boring crap. I did love Kyle's house though!

I used to love Rinna, but she's gone too far now. What was up with her tsk-tsking Kim and telling her she hopes she (Kim) gets help? Hasn't Kim been in recovery for a long time now? I hated the way Rinna was staring at her, like she was a bad, bad child. Ugh. I see no reason for her to KEEP BRINGING UP Kim's sobriety/addiction. WTH?

Lisa R. just can't stop putting her foot in it. She should have left well enough alone long ago, but no, she keeps feeling the need to "speak her truth." If I were Yolanda, I would have told her to just drop the whole thing, already. She's like a dog w/a bone.

I am sick to death of the whole she said/she said nonsense re: Munchausen's, etc. Really, move on, ladies!

Couldn't agree more. This season wins the award for beating a dead horse. And usually Beverly Hills is my favorite series of the bunch. I could barely get through the episodes this season I was so bored with the same crap over and over.

Did anyone watch last night? Just when I keep thinking it can't get any sillier... that was no party, it was just another ridiculous excuse to get everyone in the same room to rehash the same old boring crap. I did love Kyle's house though!

I used to love Rinna, but she's gone too far now. What was up with her tsk-tsking Kim and telling her she hopes she (Kim) gets help? Hasn't Kim been in recovery for a long time now? I hated the way Rinna was staring at her, like she was a bad, bad child. Ugh. I see no reason for her to KEEP BRINGING UP Kim's sobriety/addiction. WTH?

Lisa R. just can't stop putting her foot in it. She should have left well enough alone long ago, but no, she keeps feeling the need to "speak her truth." If I were Yolanda, I would have told her to just drop the whole thing, already. She's like a dog w/a bone.

I am sick to death of the whole she said/she said nonsense re: Munchausen's, etc. Really, move on, ladies!

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Anonymous wrote:I never thought Eliren was owed an apology. She owes LVP an apology.

And if you don't want to be offended by someone discussing your affair, then don't have one.

Agree! She was uncomfortable? Wonder how her and Vince's spouses felt.

I don't disagree that cheating is wrong, and if Eileen's or Vince's ex characterized the start of their relationship that way - as "the affair" - I couldn't fault them. But LVP has no dog in this fight, is not friends with either of their exes, and is supposedly Eileen's friend. It's just bad manners for her to characterize their relationship as an affair on TV when she met Eileen years afterward, and Eileen and Vince are still together 10+ years later, and their relationship has resulted in a child that can hear it described this way. If you were friends with someone who had been an alcoholic 20 years ago, before you met them, would you phrase a question "so is that when you became a drunk?" Just because it's true doesn't mean it's polite, kind, or appropriate for a friend to say aloud.

Absolutely agree! I thought Eileen was well within her rights to tell LVP how offensive her aggressive questioning was. LVP knew *exactly* what she was doing - trying to get a reaction out of Eileen - and she succeeded. As far as I'm concerned, when Eileen first confronted LVP at that dinner, and told her she was offended by the intrusive questions, LVP should have sincerely apologized, then and there. But instead, she took her usual passive-aggressive stance and made Eileen look like she was in the wrong. Classic LVP - never admit fault. Never apologize (sincerely, at least).

That said... I do also agree with other PPs who said Eileen should have shut down that line of questioning ASAP, right as it was happening. She wasn't under any obligation to answer LVP. However, because I'm someone who constantly plays the "I should have said ---" game, I can completely understand how she didn't react quickly enough to do that. She was just trying to be polite and have a conversation with LVP and it got intrusive before she knew what was happening.

The thing that annoys me about LVP is that she's always playing those games with people; asking questions that are none of her business, and then feigning surprise when she gets an angry reaction. She's very, very clever and I really doubt I'd ever be able to fully trust someone like that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never thought Eliren was owed an apology. She owes LVP an apology.

And if you don't want to be offended by someone discussing your affair, then don't have one.

Agree! She was uncomfortable? Wonder how her and Vince's spouses felt.

I don't disagree that cheating is wrong, and if Eileen's or Vince's ex characterized the start of their relationship that way - as "the affair" - I couldn't fault them. But LVP has no dog in this fight, is not friends with either of their exes, and is supposedly Eileen's friend. It's just bad manners for her to characterize their relationship as an affair on TV when she met Eileen years afterward, and Eileen and Vince are still together 10+ years later, and their relationship has resulted in a child that can hear it described this way. If you were friends with someone who had been an alcoholic 20 years ago, before you met them, would you phrase a question "so is that when you became a drunk?" Just because it's true doesn't mean it's polite, kind, or appropriate for a friend to say aloud.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I never thought Eliren was owed an apology. She owes LVP an apology.

And if you don't want to be offended by someone discussing your affair, then don't have one.

Agree! She was uncomfortable? Wonder how her and Vince's spouses felt.

Anonymous wrote:I never thought Eliren was owed an apology. She owes LVP an apology.

And if you don't want to be offended by someone discussing your affair, then don't have one.

I never thought Eliren was owed an apology. She owes LVP an apology.

I was disgusted by Brandi's shirt while on a picnic with Kim and Yolanda. It said something like Being Sober is No Fun. Really? In front of Kim with all of her struggles? It wasn't remotely funny.

Just watched this week's episode. Agree that it was boring. I'm team LVP. They all try to craft their story lines and control their image on the show. Isn't that expected? Why is it only manipulative when LVP does it? And Rinna needs to grow up. Only she gets to choose what words come out of her mouth so she needs to stop blaming LVP! What a terrible role model for her teenage daughters.

I can't stand Eileen. If she didn't want to talk about her affair, all she had to do was say, "I'd prefer not to discuss this anymore." Now that she's been complaining about it, there's been WAY more attention brought to her affair.