jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just have a question about this. Regarding aviation security, lots of people like to say better safe than sorry. Therefore, this clock would have never been allowed through a checkpoint, and frankly, it would be stupid of someone to try and be unaware of the consequences.

With school security a hot topic now, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference in the situations. Regardless of his race or religion, why would someone think it would be a good idea to bring this into a physical location where people are paranoid?

How do you know that the clock wouldn't be allowed through airport security? It very likely would have been subject to examination, but there is nothing dangerous about it so I don't know why it wouldn't be allowed through.

Regarding the school, I guess it can't be said enough. Nobody thought it was a bomb. Maybe you think it looks like a bomb, or maybe you think it looks like a ham sandwich. Either way, it doesn't matter because nobody at the school thought it was a bomb. For some reason, even though they knew it was not a bomb, they expected an explanation beyond "it is a clock". The police have been very explicit on that point. So, the question is, "why did they not accept the explanation that it was a clock and why were they so sure that there was a 'wider explanation'"? The most obvious answer is that he is Muslim.

Who called the cops?

jsteele wrote:
How do you know that the clock wouldn't be allowed through airport security? It very likely would have been subject to examination, but there is nothing dangerous about it so I don't know why it wouldn't be allowed through.

There is nothing dangerous about a liter of water either, and it's not allowed through.

Anonymous wrote:I just have a question about this. Regarding aviation security, lots of people like to say better safe than sorry. Therefore, this clock would have never been allowed through a checkpoint, and frankly, it would be stupid of someone to try and be unaware of the consequences.

With school security a hot topic now, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference in the situations. Regardless of his race or religion, why would someone think it would be a good idea to bring this into a physical location where people are paranoid?

I don't think anyone is saying that the clock shouldn't have raised eyebrows.
I think what people are saying is that denying this kid his Miranda rights while questioning him and then arresting him even when they knew it wasn't a bomb was a gross overreaction.

Anonymous wrote:Really, we're back to ACORN again???

Yep, sadly there are still some foolish and confused people out there who believe the moon landings were faked, that UFOs are kidnapping cattle, that the Earth is flat, that Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya, and that ACORN stole elections.

Anonymous wrote:I just have a question about this. Regarding aviation security, lots of people like to say better safe than sorry. Therefore, this clock would have never been allowed through a checkpoint, and frankly, it would be stupid of someone to try and be unaware of the consequences.

With school security a hot topic now, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference in the situations. Regardless of his race or religion, why would someone think it would be a good idea to bring this into a physical location where people are paranoid?

How do you know that the clock wouldn't be allowed through airport security? It very likely would have been subject to examination, but there is nothing dangerous about it so I don't know why it wouldn't be allowed through.

Regarding the school, I guess it can't be said enough. Nobody thought it was a bomb. Maybe you think it looks like a bomb, or maybe you think it looks like a ham sandwich. Either way, it doesn't matter because nobody at the school thought it was a bomb. For some reason, even though they knew it was not a bomb, they expected an explanation beyond "it is a clock". The police have been very explicit on that point. So, the question is, "why did they not accept the explanation that it was a clock and why were they so sure that there was a 'wider explanation'"? The most obvious answer is that he is Muslim.

I just have a question about this. Regarding aviation security, lots of people like to say better safe than sorry. Therefore, this clock would have never been allowed through a checkpoint, and frankly, it would be stupid of someone to try and be unaware of the consequences.

With school security a hot topic now, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference in the situations. Regardless of his race or religion, why would someone think it would be a good idea to bring this into a physical location where people are paranoid?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A seven year old boy got suspended for throwing an imaginary grenade in a box with pretend evil forces inside. BWHAHAHHAAA. Liberals are hilarious!

I'm sure that was a scheme cooked up with the imaginary voices in your head.

Me and the Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/colorado-alex-evans-suspended-imaginary-grenade_n_2625409.html

"Evans was playing a game of his own making, called "rescue the world," when he tossed the imaginary grenade into a make-believe box filled with something evil, making explosion sound effects, the station reports.

The school's principal, Valerie Lara-Black, reportedly called Watkins Friday afternoon to inform her of Evans' suspension, confirming that the second-grader did not have anything in his hand at the time, according to the Loveland Reporter-Herald."

And that's just ridiculous to suspend a kid for that. Do you think liberals are the only people who suspend children from school unnecessarily, original pp? You sound like you care more about attacking liberals than you care about what happens to these kids who are unjustly suspended from school.

No conservative would suspend a kid for this. Guaranteed. Because no conservative sees an issues with imaginary weaponry - or PopTart weaponry - or finger weaponry - or even Lego weaponry. I say 'liberals' because they are the ones with the agenda in this regard. The principal in my son's school would probably laugh, join in the game, or at the very worst, direct his energies in a different direction. The idea of suspending this kid would not cross his mind.

Yeah. That's right. The conservatives would say look kid "Glocks not clocks".

Really, we're back to ACORN again???

With regard to ACORN, there was zero wrongdoing on the part of ACORN as an organization. The wrongdoing was on the part of a tiny handful of individual workers who turned in some bogus registrations not as a voting scam, but to try and defraud ACORN and get paid for registration forms that they didn't legitimately collect. The O'Keefe videos were TOTALLY fraudulent and faked, and were no doubt the inspiration for the Planned Parenthood videos, which are likewise heavily edited and which seriously misportray things. Serious lies and deceptions on the part of those who created the videos.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it was a set up in the part of the boy and his dad. His interviews have been interesting

Right, a Muslim can't be mistreated. But, if a Muslim is mistreated, he must've brought it upon himself as some part of a evil scheme. That's those scheming Muslims for you.

It is really shocking how little shame you have in displaying your Islamophobia.

I was on your page yesterday. After listening to what this kid is saying in his media whirlwind, it's making me think otherwise.

I really don't know what your point is. As best I can tell, you think that because Ahmed's father is some sort of activist, this entire thing was a set-up. To what end?

But, let's discuss some things that we know are set-ups. All the O'Keefe videos that set up Acorn and others. You liked those videos didn't you? The videos coming out about Planned Parenthood were set-ups with the photographers adapting false identities. You are a great fan of those videos, are you not?

I don't think the incident with the clock was a set-up. But, I think you are a giant hypocrite for using that as an excuse to "think otherwise" about a situation that was clearly mishandled.

I think one should root out lawbreakers - PP has been lying to the public. Ditto Acorn. There were indictments with the latter. The former remains to be seen, but those videos speak for themselves in so many ways.

If this kid and his father planned this, you need to show me the laws the school and the police broke in investigating this situation. If the school was actively persecuting Muslim students and these two prove that, more power to them. But that doesn't seem to be the case here. The clock could have been put in the kid's locker after he showed the engineering teacher. Or stayed in the engineering room. Unfortunately, he took it to English, and an overzealous teacher read into it, as did an overzealous administrative staff. They chose to err on the side of caution and call police. I probably would not have done that were it me, but then, I have a background in tech and would have been able to suss the situation out. They should have also called the engineering teacher in and asked him/her. All this, in my opinion, is unfortunate, but that's liberalism for you. There wasn't a measured response.

As I said, I was on your page yesterday. Today, after hearing the kid speak, and knowing the father's activist background, it's making me curious. Not convinced, but definitely curious. Irving has been the site of much Islamic activism, as well as one high profile, heinous crime (honor killing of two girls). If it were 'out there Idaho', I would not be going here. But Irving, TX? Yep, gotta wonder.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A seven year old boy got suspended for throwing an imaginary grenade in a box with pretend evil forces inside. BWHAHAHHAAA. Liberals are hilarious!

I'm sure that was a scheme cooked up with the imaginary voices in your head.

Me and the Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/colorado-alex-evans-suspended-imaginary-grenade_n_2625409.html

"Evans was playing a game of his own making, called "rescue the world," when he tossed the imaginary grenade into a make-believe box filled with something evil, making explosion sound effects, the station reports.

The school's principal, Valerie Lara-Black, reportedly called Watkins Friday afternoon to inform her of Evans' suspension, confirming that the second-grader did not have anything in his hand at the time, according to the Loveland Reporter-Herald."

And that's just ridiculous to suspend a kid for that. Do you think liberals are the only people who suspend children from school unnecessarily, original pp? You sound like you care more about attacking liberals than you care about what happens to these kids who are unjustly suspended from school.

No conservative would suspend a kid for this. Guaranteed. Because no conservative sees an issues with imaginary weaponry - or PopTart weaponry - or finger weaponry - or even Lego weaponry. I say 'liberals' because they are the ones with the agenda in this regard. The principal in my son's school would probably laugh, join in the game, or at the very worst, direct his energies in a different direction. The idea of suspending this kid would not cross his mind.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it was a set up in the part of the boy and his dad. His interviews have been interesting

Right, a Muslim can't be mistreated. But, if a Muslim is mistreated, he must've brought it upon himself as some part of a evil scheme. That's those scheming Muslims for you.

It is really shocking how little shame you have in displaying your Islamophobia.

I was on your page yesterday. After listening to what this kid is saying in his media whirlwind, it's making me think otherwise.

I really don't know what your point is. As best I can tell, you think that because Ahmed's father is some sort of activist, this entire thing was a set-up. To what end?

But, let's discuss some things that we know are set-ups. All the O'Keefe videos that set up Acorn and others. You liked those videos didn't you? The videos coming out about Planned Parenthood were set-ups with the photographers adapting false identities. You are a great fan of those videos, are you not?

I don't think the incident with the clock was a set-up. But, I think you are a giant hypocrite for using that as an excuse to "think otherwise" about a situation that was clearly mishandled.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A seven year old boy got suspended for throwing an imaginary grenade in a box with pretend evil forces inside. BWHAHAHHAAA. Liberals are hilarious!

I'm sure that was a scheme cooked up with the imaginary voices in your head.

Me and the Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/colorado-alex-evans-suspended-imaginary-grenade_n_2625409.html

"Evans was playing a game of his own making, called "rescue the world," when he tossed the imaginary grenade into a make-believe box filled with something evil, making explosion sound effects, the station reports.

The school's principal, Valerie Lara-Black, reportedly called Watkins Friday afternoon to inform her of Evans' suspension, confirming that the second-grader did not have anything in his hand at the time, according to the Loveland Reporter-Herald."

Another idiotic overreaction from two years ago tells us what? Were the police called? Was this boy arrested? Was this boy hauled away in cuffs? Was this boy not allowed to call his parents?

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A seven year old boy got suspended for throwing an imaginary grenade in a box with pretend evil forces inside. BWHAHAHHAAA. Liberals are hilarious!

I'm sure that was a scheme cooked up with the imaginary voices in your head.

Me and the Huff Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/colorado-alex-evans-suspended-imaginary-grenade_n_2625409.html

"Evans was playing a game of his own making, called "rescue the world," when he tossed the imaginary grenade into a make-believe box filled with something evil, making explosion sound effects, the station reports.

The school's principal, Valerie Lara-Black, reportedly called Watkins Friday afternoon to inform her of Evans' suspension, confirming that the second-grader did not have anything in his hand at the time, according to the Loveland Reporter-Herald."

And that's just ridiculous to suspend a kid for that. Do you think liberals are the only people who suspend children from school unnecessarily, original pp? You sound like you care more about attacking liberals than you care about what happens to these kids who are unjustly suspended from school.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it was a set up in the part of the boy and his dad. His interviews have been interesting

Right, a Muslim can't be mistreated. But, if a Muslim is mistreated, he must've brought it upon himself as some part of a evil scheme. That's those scheming Muslims for you.

It is really shocking how little shame you have in displaying your Islamophobia.

Agree - it's really amazing how some people can twist events to fit their conspiracy scenarios. If dad is articulate and involved in social issues, that means that dad and the boy set it up. Yeah, right.

Good point!