Anonymous
06/29/2024 23:13
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
UCLA, UC Berkeley
Anonymous
06/29/2024 22:42
Subject: Re:If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming that UCLA is underrepresented on this thread because of an east coast bias. There's no way that schools like UVA, UMD or Amherst have better international recognition than UCLA. That's just silly.
UC Berkeley was mentioned several times.
UCLA is a different school
Anonymous
06/09/2022 14:04
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
That's absurd -- Penn's football program sucks.
Anonymous
06/09/2022 12:31
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.
Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.
No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools
Not the earlier poster but I did a degree at Oxford and LSE was considered equally rigorous and more cosmopolitan. St Andrews is not in the same category but I agree it has some recognition primarily due to Will and Kate.
This is false. No one in college thinks Oxford and LSE are equal unless you are splitting hairs over a specific program
Anonymous
06/08/2022 20:54
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:I live in South Korea and I would think of HYP, Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins to be elite and prestigious. However, don’t expect your average Korean to know all these schools. This is among the international Koreans/the wealthy and elite in this country who travel and/or study abroad.
Also Korean and I would throw in NYU, Berkeley and UCLA in there as well in terms of pure name recognition. UCLA merchandise in particular has always been everywhere.
Anonymous
06/08/2022 19:40
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.
Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.
No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools
Not the earlier poster but I did a degree at Oxford and LSE was considered equally rigorous and more cosmopolitan. St Andrews is not in the same category but I agree it has some recognition primarily due to Will and Kate.
Anonymous
06/08/2022 19:33
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.
Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.
No they are not! Lots of threads on this already. LSE is know as "Let's See Europe". It is not "desirable" by international applicants. Only if you can't get into the more elite schools
Anonymous
06/08/2022 04:48
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Harvard, UC Berkeley and NYU are most well known names among internationals.
Anonymous
06/08/2022 04:44
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.
Oxford and Cambridge have more name recognition among masses but St Andrews and LSE are very well known and desirable among international applicants, no matter if they are coming from USA or India or China etc.
Anonymous
06/08/2022 04:37
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
It’s 2022, “Foreigners” have access to the internet and read the same newspaper articles and rankings listing as locals do.
Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Johns Hopkins, UC (Berkeley/LA), CalTech, Duke, U Chicago, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, NYU.
Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Johns Hopkins, UC (Berkeley/LA), CalTech, Duke, U Chicago, Rice, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, NYU.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 23:57
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Lol at the subtle St Andrews plug. No.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 23:57
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
I live in South Korea and I would think of HYP, Ivies, Stanford, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, and Johns Hopkins to be elite and prestigious. However, don’t expect your average Korean to know all these schools. This is among the international Koreans/the wealthy and elite in this country who travel and/or study abroad.
Anonymous
06/07/2022 23:51
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
On both ends (US awareness of international unis) and (international awareness of American unis) it depends on which demographics you're talking with.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Sure, probably everyone knows Harvard and Oxbridge, but beyond it gets tougher the further beyond those you reach.
Having lived in Europe, I've met very well educated Europeans, for example, who didn't know of Princeton. Even with folks more familiar with US schools, for example, Penn is confused frequently with Penn State.
Who are you talking with about it? In China and India, well educated groups, or those close to current or future international students might have pretty broad familiarity with top 50 US universities, which includes various flagship state schools that aren't amazingly impressive to Americans. Recruiters in international companies will know of these schools.
Hundreds of thousands of students from the likes of China, India, Saudi, etc pay lots and lots to go to uni in the US, and they're not all at HYP. So they find value in schools like Michigan, Florida, UIUC, the UCs.
Similarly, in the US, better educated and wealthier crowds, private school folks will know of LSE, St Andrews, the like.
Anonymous
05/21/2022 23:59
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan
Stanford, yes.
USC - ha! No.
Isn't USC an acronym for "University of So many [Rich] Chinese"? I always thought it's a backup school for rich kids from Asia.
NO. It’s the University of Spoiled Children and we Californians called it that long before Varsity Blues. The overseas Chinese value UCLA and Cal.
+100
Anonymous
05/21/2022 23:32
Subject: If you are a foreigner, what schools apart from H/Y/P do you consider "prestigious"
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan
Stanford, yes.
USC - ha! No.
Isn't USC an acronym for "University of So many [Rich] Chinese"? I always thought it's a backup school for rich kids from Asia.
NO. It’s the University of Spoiled Children and we Californians called it that long before Varsity Blues. The overseas Chinese value UCLA and Cal.