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Anonymous wrote:The sheer defensiveness of the people who have chosen to circumcise here is obvious. I can see why it would be really frustrating to feel like you did something that is now being openly criticised and questioned, particularly if you thought you were doing the right thing. I think many people who circ generally just didn't figure out it was the wrong thing to do beforehand, and now are so invested in it being the right thing to do that they feel personally offended when someone else disputes that choice by not making it.

I can think of no other explanation of why they care so much about what someone else did or what someone else thinks.

Pot. Meet kettle. The non-circ mothers are the ones who get in a tizzy about this. No one else.

May I direct your attention to the OP, who started this shit slinging sesh?

Listen. I am not defensive at all about our decision to circ. And I put people who have opinions about it in the same group I put non-vaxers. But it is really perplexing that someone else has such an interest/opinion in my child's genitalia. It really skeeves me out. Why care so much about what someone else does? People who cry mulilation and abuse are just whackadoodles, and it is unsettling that these people care so much about my child's private areas.

Listen. You can quit trying to put people opposed to circumcision in one category with non-vaxers. The overlap only goes in one direction, i.e. non-vaxers tend not to circumcise, because they have a general distrust in the medical establishment, without doing actual research on the issues. There are, however, many people who oppose circumcision who vaccinate fully, because while they don't mistrust their doctors, they do their due diligence and look at peer-reviewed research with an international scope. If you do that, you see that vaccination makes sense while circumcision doesn't. People who circumcise, on the other hand, tend to trust the US medical establishment, and don't feel the need to look beyond that.

Think what you want and I will do the same. I put them in the same category.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else notice that the vulgarities on these threads ALWAYS come from the pro-circers?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else notice that the vulgarities on these threads ALWAYS come from the pro-circers?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else notice that the vulgarities on these threads ALWAYS come from the pro-circers?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a current of religious intolerance in the whole discussion here (other thread, but it a
Ways is that was on similar threads). I don't feel I have to apologize for being a proud Jewish woman, looking forward to raising a Jewish son. But I don't plan on having many people check out my sons dick. It's so odd to me that people are seeing all these other kids penises! And I'm not even prude. Just, why would hu be checking out my son?

I have issues with the claim "religious intolerance." There are areas around the world where some groups of people circumcise girls in the name of religion, and people call it genital mutilation.

Religious tolerance is one thing, but I think there are some practices done in the name of religion that should be questioned because they involve altering a child's (who is unable to consent) genitalia irreversibly.

Equating circumcision with female genital mutilation is nuts. They aren't remotely the same thing. One is done as a covenant with God (and for health reasons) while the other is to punish and control women to inhibit their sexual pleasure.


I've posted before, but I will clue you in. The skin is there for a reason. My husband has no skin left at all and has a very hard time sexually.
It's like equating getting your ears pierced with having a bullet in your head...hey, they're both holes!

Maybe your husband is just not that into you.

Anonymous wrote:We fully vaccinate on time and my mom and dad are both doctors - I trust the medical establishment an awful lot, considering! I'm a lawyer, so I can't claim the family medical degree, but I absolutely am not anti-medicine. And we do not circumcise. And, please, lady above, get this through your head. I am not obsessed with your child's genitalia in any way.

You want to marginalize people who speak their minds about circumcision to be crazy, anti-medicine, or perverts, and you want to dumb down the issue to what's in your kid's diaper vs. minding one's own business. It's not so simple. If you've circumcised, fine. If you are thinking about it, I'd encourage you not to do it. It will hurt your baby and don't kid yourself otherwise, the medical benefits are extremely flimsy, and the cultural / religious aspect means nothing to me.

I believe it's harmful to kids, and that's why I care. It has nothing to do with caring about how your kids genitalia looks. It makes you feel better to think of it like it's as unreasonable as someone caring about how you comb your kids hair. Not so. We believe it's harmful, and that's why we care.

Some people upthread have said there will never be a ban on it. Honestly, that bums me out. I wish there would be. I can tell you that insurance companies will not pay for it for much longer. That's a step in the right direction. If you want to cut off part of your child's penis, you should have to pay for that yourself. My premiums shouldn't reflect cosmetic surgery on infant penises.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a current of religious intolerance in the whole discussion here (other thread, but it a
Ways is that was on similar threads). I don't feel I have to apologize for being a proud Jewish woman, looking forward to raising a Jewish son. But I don't plan on having many people check out my sons dick. It's so odd to me that people are seeing all these other kids penises! And I'm not even prude. Just, why would hu be checking out my son?

I have issues with the claim "religious intolerance." There are areas around the world where some groups of people circumcise girls in the name of religion, and people call it genital mutilation.

Religious tolerance is one thing, but I think there are some practices done in the name of religion that should be questioned because they involve altering a child's (who is unable to consent) genitalia irreversibly.

Equating circumcision with female genital mutilation is nuts. They aren't remotely the same thing. One is done as a covenant with God (and for health reasons) while the other is to punish and control women to inhibit their sexual pleasure.


I've posted before, but I will clue you in. The skin is there for a reason. My husband has no skin left at all and has a very hard time sexually.
It's like equating getting your ears pierced with having a bullet in your head...hey, they're both holes!

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There is a current of religious intolerance in the whole discussion here (other thread, but it a
Ways is that was on similar threads). I don't feel I have to apologize for being a proud Jewish woman, looking forward to raising a Jewish son. But I don't plan on having many people check out my sons dick. It's so odd to me that people are seeing all these other kids penises! And I'm not even prude. Just, why would hu be checking out my son?

I have issues with the claim "religious intolerance." There are areas around the world where some groups of people circumcise girls in the name of religion, and people call it genital mutilation.

Religious tolerance is one thing, but I think there are some practices done in the name of religion that should be questioned because they involve altering a child's (who is unable to consent) genitalia irreversibly.

Equating circumcision with female genital mutilation is nuts. They aren't remotely the same thing. One is done as a covenant with God (and for health reasons) while the other is to punish and control women to inhibit their sexual pleasure.


I've posted before, but I will clue you in. The skin is there for a reason. My husband has no skin left at all and has a very hard time sexually.
It's like equating getting your ears pierced with having a bullet in your head...hey, they're both holes!

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Anonymous wrote:The sheer defensiveness of the people who have chosen to circumcise here is obvious. I can see why it would be really frustrating to feel like you did something that is now being openly criticised and questioned, particularly if you thought you were doing the right thing. I think many people who circ generally just didn't figure out it was the wrong thing to do beforehand, and now are so invested in it being the right thing to do that they feel personally offended when someone else disputes that choice by not making it.

I can think of no other explanation of why they care so much about what someone else did or what someone else thinks.

Pot. Meet kettle. The non-circ mothers are the ones who get in a tizzy about this. No one else.

May I direct your attention to the OP, who started this shit slinging sesh?

Listen. I am not defensive at all about our decision to circ. And I put people who have opinions about it in the same group I put non-vaxers. But it is really perplexing that someone else has such an interest/opinion in my child's genitalia. It really skeeves me out. Why care so much about what someone else does? People who cry mulilation and abuse are just whackadoodles, and it is unsettling that these people care so much about my child's private areas.

Listen. You can quit trying to put people opposed to circumcision in one category with non-vaxers. The overlap only goes in one direction, i.e. non-vaxers tend not to circumcise, because they have a general distrust in the medical establishment, without doing actual research on the issues. There are, however, many people who oppose circumcision who vaccinate fully, because while they don't mistrust their doctors, they do their due diligence and look at peer-reviewed research with an international scope. If you do that, you see that vaccination makes sense while circumcision doesn't. People who circumcise, on the other hand, tend to trust the US medical establishment, and don't feel the need to look beyond that.

Think what you want and I will do the same. I put them in the same category.

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Anonymous wrote:The sheer defensiveness of the people who have chosen to circumcise here is obvious. I can see why it would be really frustrating to feel like you did something that is now being openly criticised and questioned, particularly if you thought you were doing the right thing. I think many people who circ generally just didn't figure out it was the wrong thing to do beforehand, and now are so invested in it being the right thing to do that they feel personally offended when someone else disputes that choice by not making it.

I can think of no other explanation of why they care so much about what someone else did or what someone else thinks.

Pot. Meet kettle. The non-circ mothers are the ones who get in a tizzy about this. No one else.

May I direct your attention to the OP, who started this shit slinging sesh?

Listen. I am not defensive at all about our decision to circ. And I put people who have opinions about it in the same group I put non-vaxers. But it is really perplexing that someone else has such an interest/opinion in my child's genitalia. It really skeeves me out. Why care so much about what someone else does? People who cry mulilation and abuse are just whackadoodles, and it is unsettling that these people care so much about my child's private areas.

Listen. You can quit trying to put people opposed to circumcision in one category with non-vaxers. The overlap only goes in one direction, i.e. non-vaxers tend not to circumcise, because they have a general distrust in the medical establishment, without doing actual research on the issues. There are, however, many people who oppose circumcision who vaccinate fully, because while they don't mistrust their doctors, they do their due diligence and look at peer-reviewed research with an international scope. If you do that, you see that vaccination makes sense while circumcision doesn't. People who circumcise, on the other hand, tend to trust the US medical establishment, and don't feel the need to look beyond that.

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Anonymous wrote:The sheer defensiveness of the people who have chosen to circumcise here is obvious. I can see why it would be really frustrating to feel like you did something that is now being openly criticised and questioned, particularly if you thought you were doing the right thing. I think many people who circ generally just didn't figure out it was the wrong thing to do beforehand, and now are so invested in it being the right thing to do that they feel personally offended when someone else disputes that choice by not making it.

I can think of no other explanation of why they care so much about what someone else did or what someone else thinks.

Pot. Meet kettle. The non-circ mothers are the ones who get in a tizzy about this. No one else.

May I direct your attention to the OP, who started this shit slinging sesh?

Listen. I am not defensive at all about our decision to circ. And I put people who have opinions about it in the same group I put non-vaxers. But it is really perplexing that someone else has such an interest/opinion in my child's genitalia. It really skeeves me out. Why care so much about what someone else does? People who cry mulilation and abuse are just whackadoodles, and it is unsettling that these people care so much about my child's private areas.