i am chubby at a size 8 (as in I have a roll around my middle). I would be heavy at a 12.
I'm 5'6".

That said, I know many beautiful, sexy women who are significantly heavier than I am. When I feel down about myself and my weight (which I do a lot) I think about how fabulous they are and how a positive attitude and kindness are what make a person truly appealing.

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Anonymous wrote:Women will learn to love themselves, one day.

You mean love themselves enough to take care of their bodies and their health? Some women already do.

And some women abuse laxatives and vomit their food up to stay slim...or just don't eat.

Being a size 2 does not automatically mean that a woman is taking care of herself. It means that she's a size 2.

I don't think anyone is claiming that people who are size 2 are necessarily taking care themselves. But your post and the timing of it implies that you think that women who want to lose weight (and be the best version of themselves) are "women who don't love themselves." And I disagree with that sentiment. True, some women do it in an unhealthy way and abuse laxatives or vomit up food.

A woman that does that is a narcissist who only loves the appearance of healthy and beauty and not the actual substance of it. That woman isn't loving her body. But neither is a woman that sits on the couch eating doritos in between meals of processed foods.

No, a woman (or man, for that matter) who does this has a serious illness that he or she likely developed largely due to genetics.

No, depends on their build, but at size 12 I am overweight, at 5'6". If I wore a 12 and was all muscle would I still be "fat?"

Absolutely. Today's size 12 is a real 16-18.

Absolutely not true. Many years ago (like, Marilyn Monroe's time), the sizing charts started at a 6 (or maybe it was 8) - so women in those days who said they were a 6 or 8 were really like a 2 or 4 in conventional, modern sizes. That does not mean that a 12 today is really a 16 or 18. Research it.

Yes. The average American woman may be a size 14, but that's because the average American woman is fat.

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Anonymous wrote:Women will learn to love themselves, one day.

This keeps popping up in my fitness/health social media feeds. I like it.

I have so much fat. Is that better?

If I was a size 12 I would be skin and bones only. Am 5'10" and have large shoulders and hip bones. I weighed 120 and only fit into a size 14.

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Anonymous wrote:Women will learn to love themselves, one day.

You mean love themselves enough to take care of their bodies and their health? Some women already do.

And some women abuse laxatives and vomit their food up to stay slim...or just don't eat.

Being a size 2 does not automatically mean that a woman is taking care of herself. It means that she's a size 2.

I don't think anyone is claiming that people who are size 2 are necessarily taking care themselves. But your post and the timing of it implies that you think that women who want to lose weight (and be the best version of themselves) are "women who don't love themselves." And I disagree with that sentiment. True, some women do it in an unhealthy way and abuse laxatives or vomit up food.

A woman that does that is a narcissist who only loves the appearance of healthy and beauty and not the actual substance of it. That woman isn't loving her body. But neither is a woman that sits on the couch eating doritos in between meals of processed foods.

I'm a size 12. I could lose 15 pounds, but I'm attractive at my current weight. Eh.

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Anonymous wrote:Women will learn to love themselves, one day.

This keeps popping up in my fitness/health social media feeds. I like it.

I like this too. It's a good way to look at it.

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Anonymous wrote:Women will learn to love themselves, one day.

You mean love themselves enough to take care of their bodies and their health? Some women already do.

And some women abuse laxatives and vomit their food up to stay slim...or just don't eat.

Being a size 2 does not automatically mean that a woman is taking care of herself. It means that she's a size 2.

Anonymous wrote:Depends on their height of course.

And the size and density of their bones, and the size of their breasts, and the proportion of muscle to fat. We're not all the same.

Someone posted upthread about H&M- I am a size 6 in Ann Taylor, blah blah brands (5-5 and 135 lbs) - but a size 10 or 12 in H&M slim pants, etc. H&M sizing is a bitch for the ego!

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Anonymous wrote:You have to go by weight/height and bmi to answer this. But the average sized woman at 5'4 wearing a size twelve? Yes.

This. Theres a huge difference between a size 12 woman who is 5'11 and one that is 5'4". Clothing doesn't matter.

+1. This is me. I'm 5'4" and a size 12, who used to be a size 6. For a whole host of reasons (AMA child-bearing, hitting 40 and metabolism slowing, poor family genetics, flat out laziness) I'm a lot heavier than I was pre-child. Am I obese compared to my mom and her sisters? No. Am I fat? Yes. Disgusting.

NP here. Please don't say you are disgusting. What you are describing is being a very normal woman! Your body gave birth to children and now you are over 40. Please cut yourself some slack. If you need/want to amp up the working out/activity, that's great. But please don't down talk yourself even in an anonymous forum! I'm sure those close to you and your children would say your weight/size is the very last thing they think of when they think of you. I'm also sure that those folks would never use the word disgusting to describe you. Please, let's all be kind to ourselves.

Depends on their height of course.