Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to
Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.
THIS IS FALSE.
The US has NOT agreed to this!
Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.
Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.
And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.
But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.
Tell me what points will Iran give up in negotiations? Remember you have just bombed them for over a months and not one of their demands has changed. Iran holds all the cards. These points are not demands they are facts on the ground.
F Israel. Israel is never honors a ceasefire. Israel needs a good kick in the head.
The IRGC had its butt kicked. They had a choice. Electricity or no electricity. Pretty simple, China told them to take the deal. They have no allies in the Middle East.
With enough money from tolling the Strait they won’t need allies.
The $2M toll won't hold long term. It's too expensive compared to going the long way around Africa
lol
Please look at a map of the strait of Hormuz. Geography rules and Trump is f’d up bigly. We went from free passage to a toll You can’t get to Africa without going through the strait.
Apparently you haven't seen the MAGA map:
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s hope that Pakistan, as the adult in the room, saves us from Darth Pedo.
oh lord- as a 2nd gen Pakistani this sentence frightens me- inept, corrupt bunglers who have zero credibility or pretense at competence since the 1970s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to
Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.
THIS IS FALSE.
The US has NOT agreed to this!
Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.
Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.
And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.
But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.
Tell me what points will Iran give up in negotiations? Remember you have just bombed them for over a months and not one of their demands has changed. Iran holds all the cards. These points are not demands they are facts on the ground.
F Israel. Israel is never honors a ceasefire. Israel needs a good kick in the head.
The IRGC had its butt kicked. They had a choice. Electricity or no electricity. Pretty simple, China told them to take the deal. They have no allies in the Middle East.
With enough money from tolling the Strait they won’t need allies.
The $2M toll won't hold long term. It's too expensive compared to going the long way around Africa
lol
Please look at a map of the strait of Hormuz. Geography rules and Trump is f’d up bigly. We went from free passage to a toll You can’t get to Africa without going through the strait.
I was confused about it enough that I went and looked at the map. Maybe they’re talking about re-routing everything through the Red Sea? The Mediterranean?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this is a good plan, america should take over the straight just like the panama canal
This plan does not give us control of the strait, are you nuts
The MAGAs are so desperate for this to be anything other than a total humiliation for Trump and his idiotic war.
Iran really pissed of their neighbors by closing a straight that is not theirs to close. Iran is now hated by all the neighboring Muslim countries
Iran has *always* been hated by its neighbors. All it does is fund terrorism in other countries.
Anonymous wrote:Let’s hope that Pakistan, as the adult in the room, saves us from Darth Pedo.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to post two times about the doe UFC things they violate Geneva convention as war crimes, not going through. Look it up yourself.
we are not signatories to the Geneva convention so it doesn't matter. teh global order and intl law doest apply to the USA both in good times and in bad. we are the most powerful country in the world and have been for 100 years. our poor decision making for teh past 25 years has been weakening the all powerfulness that we had previously but there is no-one who can challenge teh might of the US. so its up to us citizens to not abuse that power.
Anonymous wrote:I’ve tried to post two times about the doe UFC things they violate Geneva convention as war crimes, not going through. Look it up yourself.