Anonymous wrote:Israel doesn't want a democratic Iran. They want a country that is devastated by constant civil war like they've done in Lebanon, and currently are doing with supporting the Syrian Kurds in Syria. They want to destabilize the entire region. It's the only way they can survive in the long term because everyone knows that no one supports a genocide state, which is much worse than the one in South Africa was.
Israeli minister says agents 'operating in Iran' amid protests
Israel's far-right Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu claimed on Thursday that Israeli agents are operating on the ground in Iran, amid protests triggered by a collapse of the Iranian rial and a severe economic crisis.
Speaking to Israel's Army Radio, Eliyahu said Israel had used on-the-ground agents during the 12-day war with Iran in June last year, adding that similar operatives are active during the country's current crisis.
"When we attacked in Iran during 'Rising Lion' we were on its soil and knew how to lay the groundwork for a strike. I can assure you that we have some of our people operating there right now," he said.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?
There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.
The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.
So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.
No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.
I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?
That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.
Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.
So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?
If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.
Please clarify.
Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.
Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.
Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.
The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler
Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.
You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.
Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran
You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.
Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?
Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.
I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.
+1
Or homosexuals.
Just like in Israel.
The PPP is right. You are a sick propagandist who seems to have zero grasp on reality.
She doesn't care about the iranian people, except to the extent their government funds anti-Israeli activity through Palestinian terrorists and propaganda like hers. She's all about trying to make excuses for why the Palestinians are a failed society, and her answer is always "Israel". Never Palestinian terror, corruption, culture of endless grievance, or perpetual reliance on global charity due to the absence of a functional civil economy, since foreign aid is diverted to terror activity. No matter the topic, she'll be there to try to inject Israel into the conversation, and always in a scurrilous manner.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?
There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.
The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.
So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.
No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.
I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?
That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.
Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.
So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?
If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.
Please clarify.
Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.
Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.
Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.
The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler
Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.
You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.
Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran
You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.
Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?
Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.
I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.
+1
Or homosexuals.
Irony being that Israel has killed more LGBT people in the Middle East than any other country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The idea that Israel is humanitarian and cares about women and children that aren’t their own is comical. Israel is looking for problems and creating another Iraq war for the us
Just like those peace loving Palestinians murdered, raped 1200 Israelis and kidnapped another 251 on Oct 7, including of course women and children. Pot, meet kettle.
This is why I do not believe the reports coming out of Iran. It’s the same people who said all of the above which turned out to be lies.
Wow, the Iranian propagandist has reached the point where she is claiming 10/7 didn’t happen.
It is so sad to see how morally bankrupt the progressive left in this country has become. I’m embarrassed I ever called myself a progressive.
Nothing to be embarrassed about. Progressive Israeli is the aame as an American racial supremacist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?
There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.
The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.
So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.
No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.
I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?
That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.
Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.
So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?
If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.
Please clarify.
Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.
Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.
Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.
The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler
Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.
You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.
Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran
You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.
Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?
Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.
I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.
+1
Or homosexuals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?
There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.
The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.
So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.
No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.
I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?
That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.
Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.
So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?
If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.
Please clarify.
Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.
Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.
Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.
The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler
Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.
You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.
Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran
You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.
Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?
Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.
I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.
+1
Or homosexuals.
Just like in Israel.
The PPP is right. You are a sick propagandist who seems to have zero grasp on reality.
Anonymous wrote:Where are the protests in the West this time?
“As the people of Iran brave another intensifying crackdown by their rulers after another effort to reclaim their basic rights from one of the world’s most repressive regimes, my question is: Where are the protests in the West? Specifically, where are all those defenders of persecuted Muslims who have been so active on the streets of New York, London, Sydney, Rome and elsewhere the past two years? Where are the demands for justice and freedom for the downtrodden victims of a brutally repressive state?
What is so different about the cause they have been espousing in their demonstrations over Gaza and the cause of the millions of innocent coreligionists 1,000 miles to their east? Those kaffiyeh-wearing, banner-waving, slogan-chanting activists say they were moved to protest, sometimes violently and unlawfully, by the plight of Muslims dispossessed of their lands and livelihoods, immiserated, starved, beaten and murdered by a savage regime.
Over the past two weeks, the clash between good and evil has seemed to be approaching a climax, and the brutality has escalated. Where are the student radicals disrupting classes? We all marveled at Queers for Palestine. Why don’t we have Queers for Iran, a country whose official attitude toward homosexuality is similar to Hamas’s? Where are the movie stars and pop icons with their beautifully produced plangent video pleas for justice? Why haven’t we heard condemnations from Zohran Mamdani, the mayor of New York, or Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, pledging solidarity with the Iranians and demanding the end of the theocratic occupation? Why hasn’t dear little Greta Thunberg gotten herself arrested for passionately supporting the Iranian people against their overlords? Where is the International Criminal Court’s crack team of lawyers to investigate crimes against humanity and issue indictments against Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, and Masoud Pezeshkian, the country’s president, as they did for Benjamin Netanyahu?”
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/iran-cracks-down-where-are-the-western-protests-791828d3?st=emDVpS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?
There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.
The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.
So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.
No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.
I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?
That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.
Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.
So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?
If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.
Please clarify.
Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.
Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.
Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.
The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler
Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.
You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.
Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran
You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.
Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?
Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.
I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.
+1
Or homosexuals.
Just like in Gaza.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The idea that Israel is humanitarian and cares about women and children that aren’t their own is comical. Israel is looking for problems and creating another Iraq war for the us
Just like those peace loving Palestinians murdered, raped 1200 Israelis and kidnapped another 251 on Oct 7, including of course women and children. Pot, meet kettle.
This is why I do not believe the reports coming out of Iran. It’s the same people who said all of the above which turned out to be lies.
Wow, the Iranian propagandist has reached the point where she is claiming 10/7 didn’t happen.
It is so sad to see how morally bankrupt the progressive left in this country has become. I’m embarrassed I ever called myself a progressive.
It could also be foreign trolls who are paid to post this stuff.
But the Progressive Left is still not blameless. They are complicit. We all know if this was any other topic (let's say trans) and the trolls were incessantly posting negative stuff about trans, the thread would be shut down just like that.