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Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.

So ignorant of history and science. Go learn why we vax for hep b at birth.

So many stupid Americans these days who know zero history.

They went to government schools so you really can’t expect much.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not research autism seriously instead of just going on feelings about vaccines? Or would that get too close to researching female health? Wouldn't want to do that!!!

It's not coming from vaccines. Inducing immune response in young children simply doesn't do it otherwise we would see autism rates increase in different countries based on when they started vaccinating their kids. And it doesn't line up that way. It lines up with improvements in diagnosis.

Kids that we used to think were just dumb turned out to be autistic. Like Forrest Gump.

I am not a doctor but I have a dozen doctors in the family and they all vaccinate their kids.

This is well intentioned, but it is borderline disinformation in my opinion.

You can say that vaccines don’t cause autism, and I’d agree with that. But you’re insinuating (1) that doctors keep up with the medical research—they mostly don’t, and lots of good research never gets done—and (2) that any hypothesized link between the immune system and autism is bunk. That proposition is wrong. As a few datapoints:

• some emerging research suggests that autism can result where maternal autoantibodies attack proteins in the mom that are needed for fetal neural development (e.g., CRMP1 and CRMP2).

• mice models of autism are sometimes approximated by taking genetically modified mice and activating the mother mouse’s immune system.

• research suggests that people with autism have higher circulating levels of interleukine 6, a protein used in immune response.

• even controlling for confounding variables like antibiotic administration, ear infections in infancy are associated with an elevated risk of autism later in life. One plausible connection is that infections obviously involve an immune response.

• machine learning models have recently found patterns of altered species of bacteria, fungi, viruses, and archaea in the gut of people with autism. Gut composition influences immune response.

Again, I agree that vaccines do not cause autism. But there is a public health danger in stigmatizing legitimate discourse around the relationship between immunology and autism. Keyboard warriors who think they’re quasi-scientists simply because they hate RFK and who paint with too broad a brushstroke risk creating a culture where researchers will conclude it’s simply too fraught to look into the relationship between autism and the immune system.

“Measles and Polio Down in the Schoolyard" - Marsh Family parody of Paul Simon "Me and Julio" on RFK”

“And you know who’ll pay
The folks whose shots are going
As state by state, they’re claiming their right to infection share
We’ll see measles and polio down by the school yard
Flu and rubella down by the schoolyard
Varicella down by the schoolyard”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiXrd-R68U

So freaking sad!!!!!

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I guess we’ll see piles of bodies any day now right?

Unfortunately things are unfolding faster than you think.

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I guess we’ll see piles of bodies any day now right?

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Hey, I remember when we used to get measles. Our high school won a city championship once because the other team got measles. This was in the 1980s. It's not that bad for teenagers but I think some babies died.

It’s ok, republicans don’t care about babies.

Only about controlling women and fetuses for Republicans, not at all about saving kids lives. If some babies and pregnant women die, they don't care.

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Hey, I remember when we used to get measles. Our high school won a city championship once because the other team got measles. This was in the 1980s. It's not that bad for teenagers but I think some babies died.

It’s ok, republicans don’t care about babies.

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Why is this good? What did so many Americans vote for this?

I simply don't get it.

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Hey, I remember when we used to get measles. Our high school won a city championship once because the other team got measles. This was in the 1980s. It's not that bad for teenagers but I think some babies died.

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick and tired of crazy white people in charge of health, as if the gold standard for health should be comparisons to Europe.

Notice how the idiots in HHS, CDC, are ACIP never compare US vax schedules to the healthiest countries on the planet like Japan, South Korea, or Singapore. You know what those Asian countries do? They give Hep B vax at birth. Singapore, Japan, and South Korea clearly have lower chronic disease burden and obesity. They have lower autism rates as well and probably vaccinate even more or a comparable level.

Sick and tired of crazed white people and their focus on comparing USA to Europe only.

We need an asian president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RCeS1SVFNo

Andrew Yang doesn't sound too bad right about now, does he? His UBI doesn't sound as crazy today does it? I bet he believes in science.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?

Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

Absolutely they can. The amount of misinformation in this thread is insane.

Insurance won't cover it.

There is no risk if you are following guidelines. There is risk if you are not. The presumption is that the committees that make these recommendations are filled with doctors and scientists that know wtf they are talking about and aren't using astrology to make their decisions.

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Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?

Yes, it means it may be impossible now get the vax for newborns.

As the vaccine is far cheaper than the cost of treatment for Hepatitis B, I am hoping insurance will still cover the vaccine.

This administration is idiocy. We are literally returning to an approach that already failed.

No kidding. Liver cancer is expensive. The gobsmacking stupidity of the
Trump administration is astonishing.

They’re looking for a million ways to cull the population.

As an aside the folks that died from COVID increased social security by over $150 Billion. Sure a lot of people who believed in science died too but I've got to believe that the antivaxxers were over-represented in the death toll.