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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Sweeping statement bearing little relationship to reality. Who cares about CAPE scores at DCI when middle school kids can take advanced math and get grouped in science and social studies classes with high achievers? In the high school, classes are tracked. We can't afford a private, didn't get into BASIS or a Latin and don't want to move, so we make the best of the situation.

If the classes are tracked, and you have a big enough cohort to stay advanced, then I agree, CAPE scores are irrelevant.

Bingo.


I would also add that you need to compare apples to apples.

As said in this thread, DCI has 20 times more ELL and SPED. If Latin had similar kids, numbers would be very different

Apples to apples, you say? Do you always just make sh*t up?

1. There are not lots more SPEDs at DCI than Latin. Not sure why you think DCI would attract more SPEDs than Latin. Plus, don't SPED kids typically get extra time on CAPE? Why would you think that there are lots more at DCI than Latin, and why do you think that they do worse on standardized tests with accommodations?

2. There are more ELL at DCI than Latin for obvious reasons. However, there are about 4 or 5 times more ELL at DCI, not 20 times as you claim. Moreover, if you look at ACCESS test results, the ELL at Latin do better than DCI. In the last testing cycle, 17% of ELL at Latin tested proficient compared to 5% at DCI. So, Latin does a better job teaching English to ELL than DCI.

3. Hopefully, kids at DCI speak pretty good English by 10th grade. However, if you look at CAPE results for 10th grade, 63.8% of DCI students are below grade level in ELA.

4. Looking at math in 10th grade, 93.7% of DCI students are below grade level in math. And math doesn't require English fluency.

What is this crazy word salad? DCI does have more English learners, more at risk students and more special ed students. I don’t think that makes it easier for them to do well on the CAPE or whatever.

Not sure where this insecurity is coming from. If you’re happy at Latin relax.

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Anonymous wrote:Sweeping statement bearing little relationship to reality. Who cares about CAPE scores at DCI when middle school kids can take advanced math and get grouped in science and social studies classes with high achievers? In the high school, classes are tracked. We can't afford a private, didn't get into BASIS or a Latin and don't want to move, so we make the best of the situation.

If the classes are tracked, and you have a big enough cohort to stay advanced, then I agree, CAPE scores are irrelevant.

Bingo.


I would also add that you need to compare apples to apples.

As said in this thread, DCI has 20 times more ELL and SPED. If Latin had similar kids, numbers would be very different

Apples to apples, you say? Do you always just make sh*t up?

1. There are not lots more SPEDs at DCI than Latin. Not sure why you think DCI would attract more SPEDs than Latin. Plus, don't SPED kids typically get extra time on CAPE? Why would you think that there are lots more at DCI than Latin, and why do you think that they do worse on standardized tests with accommodations?

2. There are more ELL at DCI than Latin for obvious reasons. However, there are about 4 or 5 times more ELL at DCI, not 20 times as you claim. Moreover, if you look at ACCESS test results, the ELL at Latin do better than DCI. In the last testing cycle, 17% of ELL at Latin tested proficient compared to 5% at DCI. So, Latin does a better job teaching English to ELL than DCI.

3. Hopefully, kids at DCI speak pretty good English by 10th grade. However, if you look at CAPE results for 10th grade, 63.8% of DCI students are below grade level in ELA.

4. Looking at math in 10th grade, 93.7% of DCI students are below grade level in math. And math doesn't require English fluency.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

Latin and Basis are lottery so the whole idea of drawing kids is sort of bizarre to me. Lots of kids out both schools on their lottery list and hope for the best.

Yes sure they can put both but let’s be real that ranking matters and eliminates one if you get a good number.

If you don’t and are waitlisted then you could get in one and decline or take it and see if you get in the other.

So sure it’s a lottery but self selection is real and you know it

I actually don’t know it. I know lots of people who got into Basis and turned it down or went and left. Those people also ranked Latin higher and never got in.

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Anonymous wrote:Sweeping statement bearing little relationship to reality. Who cares about CAPE scores at DCI when middle school kids can take advanced math and get grouped in science and social studies classes with high achievers? In the high school, classes are tracked. We can't afford a private, didn't get into BASIS or a Latin and don't want to move, so we make the best of the situation.

If the classes are tracked, and you have a big enough cohort to stay advanced, then I agree, CAPE scores are irrelevant.

Bingo.


I would also add that you need to compare apples to apples.

As said in this thread, DCI has 20 times more ELL and SPED. If Latin had similar kids, numbers would be very different

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

Latin and Basis are lottery so the whole idea of drawing kids is sort of bizarre to me. Lots of kids out both schools on their lottery list and hope for the best.

Yes sure they can put both but let’s be real that ranking matters and eliminates one if you get a good number.

If you don’t and are waitlisted then you could get in one and decline or take it and see if you get in the other.

So sure it’s a lottery but self selection is real and you know it

I actually don’t know it. I know lots of people who got into Basis and turned it down or went and left. Those people also ranked Latin higher and never got in.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

Latin and Basis are lottery so the whole idea of drawing kids is sort of bizarre to me. Lots of kids out both schools on their lottery list and hope for the best.

Yes sure they can put both but let’s be real that ranking matters and eliminates one if you get a good number.

If you don’t and are waitlisted then you could get in one and decline or take it and see if you get in the other.

So sure it’s a lottery but self selection is real and you know it

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

Latin and Basis are lottery so the whole idea of drawing kids is sort of bizarre to me. Lots of kids out both schools on their lottery list and hope for the best.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

It’s common knowledge that the high performing kids go to Basis.

I would agree that Latin draws more the average kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.

Different poster- Latin is a better school for middle of the road average IQ learners. DCI is not good if kid is a middle of the road learner. It’s big and it’s mostly geared for high achievers and bringing up the button. Walls is great for kids strong in humanities, not good if you’re considering European colleges or are a math/science kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Sweeping statement bearing little relationship to reality. Who cares about CAPE scores at DCI when middle school kids can take advanced math and get grouped in science and social studies classes with high achievers? In the high school, classes are tracked. We can't afford a private, didn't get into BASIS or a Latin and don't want to move, so we make the best of the situation.

If the classes are tracked, and you have a big enough cohort to stay advanced, then I agree, CAPE scores are irrelevant.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the 23:13 poster and yes we did decline a Latin spot. Yes I do know a family that declined Basis. I also know many families that wanted DCI as their top choice who did not play the lottery in 5th at all.

Also if you think all families in feeders are fed employees or can’t afford private or parochial, then you are wrong. I can think of 3 families alone in my kids close group of friends in addition to ourselves. I can think of 2 or 3 other families off the top of my head.

Doesn’t matter if you believe me or not. Feel free to call me a booster to try to suit the narrative you want. But there are many families like us who choose to live EOTP and not WOTP to be closer to downtown, have our kids be in a more diverse school environment, and are fine with our current school options of immersion and then at DCI.

Why even play the lottery at if your sold on DCI?

We also played the lottery, won a spot at Walls, and then turned it down. The reason we played is because we wanted our kid to go through the application process and decide for themselves if DCI is the right place for them.

That’s completely different. Latin is purely lottery. Walls has an application process so I could see the benefit of going through that process. PP insists that DCI is so amazing but then tries to lottery for Latin.