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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

DP. The Salvadorans on Garcia’s flight did not have criminal records nor were they charged with anything. Why were they sent straight to a prison? If it was a matter of just repatriating them, they could have been released at the main airport in El Salvador. Being anundocumented migrant in the US does not make you “illegal” in El Salvador.

Bukele is the president and wants him in prison because he thinks he has MS-13 ties. They are way more hardcore about eradicating gangs and crime than we are here and Bukele has the results to back it up. He took ES from one of the most dangerous countries in the world to a relatively safe country in the span of several years.

There were 23 Salvadorans, including Abrego Garcia, on his flight. None of them received due process so the only “evidence” of gang membership or any other wrongdoing was the say-so of American authorities. 90% of the individuals on that flight had no U.S. criminal record beyond immigration or traffic violations. ​So basically one dictator sent a plain full of people to another dictator’s jail and neither dictator gave them due process.

No criminal record except……. lol. That’s like saying your spouse never cheated, other than that one time.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

Generally we (the US Government) follows the US Constitution, federal laws of the United States and Federal Court orders. This isn't rocket science.

By now it should be obvious to us that MAGA don’t believe in following the constitution. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

Generally we (the US Government) follows the US Constitution, federal laws of the United States and Federal Court orders. This isn't rocket science.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

DP. The Salvadorans on Garcia’s flight did not have criminal records nor were they charged with anything. Why were they sent straight to a prison? If it was a matter of just repatriating them, they could have been released at the main airport in El Salvador. Being anundocumented migrant in the US does not make you “illegal” in El Salvador.

Bukele is the president and wants him in prison because he thinks he has MS-13 ties. They are way more hardcore about eradicating gangs and crime than we are here and Bukele has the results to back it up. He took ES from one of the most dangerous countries in the world to a relatively safe country in the span of several years.

There were 23 Salvadorans, including Abrego Garcia, on his flight. None of them received due process so the only “evidence” of gang membership or any other wrongdoing was the say-so of American authorities. 90% of the individuals on that flight had no U.S. criminal record beyond immigration or traffic violations. ​So basically one dictator sent a plain full of people to another dictator’s jail and neither dictator gave them due process.

Again, the issue is not THAT these people were deported - an argument could be made that deportation is ultimately justified - the issue is HOW it was done. It was conducted illegally and in defiance of the law and the judiciary. We don’t need to analyze the character of these men to acknowledge the illegality of the situation. Some of you just don’t agree with laws and want to ignore them.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

DP. The Salvadorans on Garcia’s flight did not have criminal records nor were they charged with anything. Why were they sent straight to a prison? If it was a matter of just repatriating them, they could have been released at the main airport in El Salvador. Being an undocumented migrant in the US does not make you “illegal” in El Salvador.

Bukele is the president and wants him in prison because he thinks he has MS-13 ties. They are way more hardcore about eradicating gangs and crime than we are here and Bukele has the results to back it up. He took ES from one of the most dangerous countries in the world to a relatively safe country in the span of several years.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

DP. The Salvadorans on Garcia’s flight did not have criminal records nor were they charged with anything. Why were they sent straight to a prison? If it was a matter of just repatriating them, they could have been released at the main airport in El Salvador. Being an undocumented migrant in the US does not make you “illegal” in El Salvador.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

I’m talking about US, you dimwit. What country are we living in, that sends people to foreign gulags without trials? Certainly not the USA.

What’s even crazier is that we are sending Venezuelans to prison in El Salvador. This isn’t “deportation”—it’s rendition. And it’s been done outside of the required constitutional parameters. As the Supreme Court concluded.

The defenders of this policy are pretty sick.

Anonymous wrote:OK... He (or his pupusa business) may have been targeted by the gangs when he was in El Salvador. But he then crossed Guatemala, Mexico, and possibly even Belize before he came to the US. So then that becomes an economic migration and not a "I am afraid for my life" case... unless the anti-pupuseria gangs were pursuing him into Guatemala and Mexico. He is back where he should be.

Now you've lost the plot. Europe doesn't like economic migrants. We do. We support refugees but we also were built by economic migrants. Most Americans descend from, or are, economic migrants. It's who we are.

Anonymous wrote:OK... He (or his pupusa business) may have been targeted by the gangs when he was in El Salvador. But he then crossed Guatemala, Mexico, and possibly even Belize before he came to the US. So then that becomes an economic migration and not a "I am afraid for my life" case... unless the anti-pupuseria gangs were pursuing him into Guatemala and Mexico. He is back where he should be.

He was a young teen when he left. His parents tried moving multiple times to avoid the gangs, and eventually sent him to live with his brother in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

I’m talking about US, you dimwit. What country are we living in, that sends people to foreign gulags without trials? Certainly not the USA.

I don’t care at all about this specific guy and think his domestic issues alone are enough to convince me he’s a terrible person.

But that is not the point. The law is the point. And the law was clearly and repeatedly violated here with his removal. And it’s shocking how many people are defending that.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.

Not when it is illegal to do so. This isn't rocket science.

Kristi Noem, Rubio, the whole Trump Administration is breaking the law. To CECOT with them all!

YOU support them breaking the law? Now see, I believe that the First Amendment protects you and I will protest to protect you, even though I don't like you. But if Trump had his way, you homegrown you, it would be off to CECOT with you too!

OK... He (or his pupusa business) may have been targeted by the gangs when he was in El Salvador. But he then crossed Guatemala, Mexico, and possibly even Belize before he came to the US. So then that becomes an economic migration and not a "I am afraid for my life" case... unless the anti-pupuseria gangs were pursuing him into Guatemala and Mexico. He is back where he should be.

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Anonymous wrote:If El Salvador does not want to release their citizen, be mad at El Salvador. The USA has zero jurisdiction at this point.

The Us has hired El salvador to imprison these people. They have every power to pull someone back. I guess you are saying Trump is too weak to do it.

The Us is not paying for his imprisonment. The US has a contract with ES for members of the Venezuelan Tren de Arugua gang - not El Salvador citizens deemed MS13.

But all of that totally misses the point!! So what if he’s a MS13 member?

Was just listening this morning to NPR and they were crystal about the real issue which is he didnt get due diligence.

Repeating it does not make it true. He had 2 hearings and lost both. Is that not due diligence? How many chances should he get?

It’s regurgitated talking points from people who aren’t following the case and simply have an anti Trump agenda.

Neither of the PP’s are correct.

He had a hearing and was granted a “withholding of removal”. That was the last hearing he had! Those words mean that there was a court order FORBIDDING the government from sending him to El Salvador. Let’s stop debating the eff up, as it’s already been admitted but the administration.

You can argue that it’s out of our hands now if you want, but that makes you an evil SOB.

Please tell us how to force his return if El Salvador says no. If El Salvador wanted him returned, he’d be here.

. Plenty of ways to persuade but in the end it IS there choice which is why we should never have sent ANYONE there. wtf are we doing by sending people to foreign prisons that don’t even meet the basic standards of international law???? What country is this??

Generally we send illegal El Salvadorans back to… El Salvador. Their own country. This isn’t rocket science.