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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Asylum was denied for this Man. He ignored that.

But he got a separate court order saying he could stay. And the government admitted it.

No he did not get a court order saying he could stay. He got an order saying he couldn't be deported to El Salvador. He is still an illegal immigrant, and the government can deport him somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Yet Trump hasn't increased asylum processing, and has not let in millions. They have released into the country nine people.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?

Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?

No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?

No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.

No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.

Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.

You and the PP... maybe you are the same person. Why do you act like immigrating is a the most horrible act? You know that the US allows a lot of legal immigration, don't you? The reasons some get to authorization and others do not are varied and complex. Unless you are 100% Native American, it's likely that someone in your own family immigrated relatively recently. Can you remember the reasons why? Does it make them immoral, horrible people, incomprehensible, worthy of being sent to a concentration camp?

Sigh. I know you are just going to snap "it is a horrible act because it is illegal." If the US send illegal immigrants to CECOT for nothing other than their immigration status, then we are no better than the places that violate human rights with impunity. Is that want you want? Don't you believe in human rights? Don't you realize that the image of the US, and it's role in the world, will fall and that this will affect you in many ways??

In any case, a judge ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador and he was . This is a MUCH worse mistake than anything the man has done so I strongly disagree that he is the only one at fault

An immigration judge, who is part of the executive branch. And this judge's order was posted on the previous page. The conclusion says Guatemala, not El Salvador.

The DoJ says the government knew full well not to send him to El Salvador so it’s weird that they’re not using your DCUM defense about Guatemala that you keep repeating.

They acknowledge they made a mistake. They haven't acknowledged that they knew he had protection not to be sent to El Salvador. It is clear this immigration judge made a mistake in his withholding declaration.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Most of the millions let in DID NOT apply for asylum. They were paroled in.

Of the ones who actually bother to file a Form I-589 (asylum application), up to half never show up for their hearing before an “immigration judge.” They simply meld into society with no legal status to be here.

Then they can be deported in accordance with law. Everything must be in accordance with law. That’s the part you and the government are trying to skip.

- not if you cannot find them.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Most of the millions let in DID NOT apply for asylum. They were paroled in.

Of the ones who actually bother to file a Form I-589 (asylum application), up to half never show up for their hearing before an “immigration judge.” They simply meld into society with no legal status to be here.

Then they can be deported in accordance with law. Everything must be in accordance with law. That’s the part you and the government are trying to skip.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about court orders?

These are not courts. These are politburos.

The judicial branch employs actual judges.

So-called “immigration judges” are not real judges; they are merely employees of the DOJ (and DOJ is part of / controlled by the administration; in this case the trump administration).

Nonetheless they make determinations that the government is obligated to follow unless they appeal and win. You can’t pick and choose which laws to follow based on whether you like them. And neither can the government. Yet that’s what it’s trying to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Most of the millions let in DID NOT apply for asylum. They were paroled in.

Of the ones who actually bother to file a Form I-589 (asylum application), up to half never show up for their hearing before an “immigration judge.” They simply meld into society with no legal status to be here.

Anonymous wrote:Who cares about court orders?

These are not courts. These are politburos.

The judicial branch employs actual judges.

So-called “immigration judges” are not real judges; they are merely employees of the DOJ (and DOJ is part of / controlled by the administration; in this case the trump administration).

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Most of the millions let in DID NOT apply for asylum. They were paroled in.

Sounds like you agree that we should start with demanding the return of those who followed all the established legal processes (applied for asylum or had court preventing return to a particular process). Let's agree that these men should be returned RIGHT NOW. Then let's change the conversation to one about DUE PROCESS.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?

Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?

No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?

No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.

No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.

Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.

You and the PP... maybe you are the same person. Why do you act like immigrating is a the most horrible act? You know that the US allows a lot of legal immigration, don't you? The reasons some get to authorization and others do not are varied and complex. Unless you are 100% Native American, it's likely that someone in your own family immigrated relatively recently. Can you remember the reasons why? Does it make them immoral, horrible people, incomprehensible, worthy of being sent to a concentration camp?

Sigh. I know you are just going to snap "it is a horrible act because it is illegal." If the US send illegal immigrants to CECOT for nothing other than their immigration status, then we are no better than the places that violate human rights with impunity. Is that want you want? Don't you believe in human rights? Don't you realize that the image of the US, and it's role in the world, will fall and that this will affect you in many ways??

In any case, a judge ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador and he was . This is a MUCH worse mistake than anything the man has done so I strongly disagree that he is the only one at fault

An immigration judge, who is part of the executive branch. And this judge's order was posted on the previous page. The conclusion says Guatemala, not El Salvador.

The DoJ says the government knew full well not to send him to El Salvador so it’s weird that they’re not using your DCUM defense about Guatemala that you keep repeating.

It is very weird. Honestly there are a lot of middle school debate tactics at play.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Most of the millions let in DID NOT apply for asylum. They were paroled in.

Who cares about court orders?

These are not courts. These are politburos.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Asylum was denied for this Man. He ignored that.

But he got a separate court order saying he could stay. And the government admitted it.

You can’t have it all ways. Look, I am not saying he has a God-given right to be here. But he does have a right for the judge to decide, and for processes in our constitution and statutes to apply. We all do. That’s what due process is. If the government doesn’t have to follow that for him, they don’t have to follow it for you. And if you are truly ok with the latter, then you either don’t understand it, or are an authoritarian and fascist at heart. Because that’s what fascism is. The government deciding it can break the law if it wants to.

The government admitted it wrongly deported him. Yet they insist they can’t fix that, which is untrue. Both are the problem here - that they are acting in ways that drastically increase the likelihood of making mistakes, and that they are unwilling to fix them when ordered to do so. None of us are safe from this. According to their theories, they can deport your citizen grandmother and your citizen infant, and you. And none of us can stop it or do anything about it. You just have to hope it don’t happen. Myself, I’d rather rely on laws than hope.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.

Asylum was denied for this Man. He ignored that.

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

They are only “unvetted” if they do not apply for asylum. Increasing asylum processing was a way to vet them and ensure that we can track them and that they are not criminals. Republicans refuses to find that process. You are being conned by Trump.