Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:All the top Engineering Schools. Because the value of the education with regard to immediate earning potential are great.

MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Berkley
Georgia Tech
etc. Go down the line.

actually, engineering is one area that doesnt need a name school really.

people keep saying this, but I have a hard time believing the graduates from the lowest ranked (or non-ranked...) ABET school are making the same as those from MIT/Berkley/GT etc

Why? Starting salaries at top companies (FAANG) are based on experience, not where you went to school. A kid from VaTech who gets in is being paid the same as one from MIT.
Go talk to engineers at any company, and they will work alongside people from many different schools and the starting pays are similar. How you advance has to do with your on the job skills, not where you attended College.

Exactly.

Anonymous wrote:We were shocked to find out, during our tufts tour, that the institution has surpassed $91,000. Tufts is a good school ,a great school even, but $91k is way overselling what it actually provides and its mediocre alumni network and few career resources. I understand that the purpose of a college isn't job training, but, at some point, when you're charging such obscene prices, you have to guarantee a return on the investment beyond being a "whole, educated person." For you, what institutions are worth $90k+, if any?

Zero. Most of you and your “bright” kids are getting massively scammed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the top Engineering Schools. Because the value of the education with regard to immediate earning potential are great.

MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Berkley
Georgia Tech
etc. Go down the line.

actually, engineering is one area that doesnt need a name school really.

people keep saying this, but I have a hard time believing the graduates from the lowest ranked (or non-ranked...) ABET school are making the same as those from MIT/Berkley/GT etc

Why? Starting salaries at top companies (FAANG) are based on experience, not where you went to school. A kid from VaTech who gets in is being paid the same as one from MIT.
Go talk to engineers at any company, and they will work alongside people from many different schools and the starting pays are similar. How you advance has to do with your on the job skills, not where you attended College.

I'm not talking about VT ... i'm talking about the 2nd tier state U that you've never heard of.

Anonymous wrote:The ivies add in Duke, Stanford ,MIT, Caltech maybe Rice, UChicago Northwestern and Notre Dame. For LAC’s Williams, Bowdoin
Davidson(if want to work in South) and maybe as a safety Holy Cross because of their strong outcomes in corporate America. Excluded Amherst Swarthmore and Wash u because their grads usually don’t up on Wall Street or board roles in corporate US. Same maybe said for UChicago.

This is a pretty good list. Notre Dame for fabulous education, happy student body, and, most importantly, the best alumni network in the country.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually pay the full price? Of all the schools my kids were admitted to (no financial aid), only one did not offer a merit discount, so we scratched that one from the list.

In the T25 and many in the 30-50 range, yes they don't offer much merit. So if you are full pay (not FA eligiglbe) you are paying $90K. And yes people pay it. We saved for college and grad school, the money is there for our kids to use.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the top Engineering Schools. Because the value of the education with regard to immediate earning potential are great.

MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Berkley
Georgia Tech
etc. Go down the line.

actually, engineering is one area that doesnt need a name school really.

Completely false. Graduates and students of the schools listed above are highly recruited and sought after by Engineering companies for jobs and internships etc. To be clear, not saying other graduates of lesser ranked schools aren't going to find jobs, but I know for a fact graduates of the schools listed above are greatly sought out.

But those kids will work alongside kids from other good engineering schools and be paid the same.

FAANG doesn't solely hire at T10 engineering schools, they hire elsewhere too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the top Engineering Schools. Because the value of the education with regard to immediate earning potential are great.

MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Berkley
Georgia Tech
etc. Go down the line.

actually, engineering is one area that doesnt need a name school really.

people keep saying this, but I have a hard time believing the graduates from the lowest ranked (or non-ranked...) ABET school are making the same as those from MIT/Berkley/GT etc

Why? Starting salaries at top companies (FAANG) are based on experience, not where you went to school. A kid from VaTech who gets in is being paid the same as one from MIT.
Go talk to engineers at any company, and they will work alongside people from many different schools and the starting pays are similar. How you advance has to do with your on the job skills, not where you attended College.

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Anonymous wrote:Hot take: none. Zero.

Go to the best in-state college you can afford.

Some people don't live in states with any quality public options (which is over half of them, really, but some really are scraping the bottom of the barrel: e.g., Alaska, the Dakotas, Idaho. . .). CA residents in particular are really fortunate w/respect to their public options: even the community colleges offer a quality education.

15 western states participate in a regional tuition program. Don't know all the details but when I lived in SD, many kids went to school in MN.
https://www.wiche.edu/tuition-savings/wue/wue-savings-finder/

The western state program is great. But typically does NOT include the state flagships. So Colorado state U is included, but not Univ of Co, same for Washington---UWashington is not included but WSU is.
But yes it's a great way to open more affordable doors. I know people who turned down UW for WSU and love it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hot take: none. Zero.

Go to the best in-state college you can afford.

Some people don't live in states with any quality public options (which is over half of them, really, but some really are scraping the bottom of the barrel: e.g., Alaska, the Dakotas, Idaho. . .). CA residents in particular are really fortunate w/respect to their public options: even the community colleges offer a quality education.

This in-state fetish makes it look like those are the only bargains out there.

People, if you don’t like your in-state public options, look south or west & you will find plenty of famous universities which grant automatic (ie, no additional application needed) merit scholarships which will make the net price of these universities similar to your in-state publics.

I would pay $90k for community college because they deserve it.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually pay the full price? Of all the schools my kids were admitted to (no financial aid), only one did not offer a merit discount, so we scratched that one from the list.

65% pay full price at the top 50 colleges. Lots of merit aid offered at colleges 50+

You can continue to apply to merit scholarships once enrolled. If you have stats for elite but goto a non -elite school you may find the less competition for merit scholarships.

Especially true for stem where you have a lot of corporate sponsored scholarships

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually pay the full price? Of all the schools my kids were admitted to (no financial aid), only one did not offer a merit discount, so we scratched that one from the list.

Ivies do not offer merit aid, just need-based. The 45% who come from families making over 200k a yr typically do not qualify for needbased aid ie they are full pay. True top schools that have full tuition or full cost of attendance merit only offer it to a couple dozen of incoming freshman, out of the entire class of 1500-2000. These schools also have excellent need-based aid that sometimes is listed as a named “scholarship” but it requires fafsa qualification as needy. Still, about half of the student body makes over 200k and is fullpay. Examples are Hopkins, Duke, WashU, Notre Dame, Vandy, Wake. Non-need true Merit is rare and hard to get at these schools.

If your kid is “getting merit everywhere” the schools are not top schools

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone actually pay the full price? Of all the schools my kids were admitted to (no financial aid), only one did not offer a merit discount, so we scratched that one from the list.

45% of Harvard students pay full price

I told my kid that paying $90k a year for a private college is like buying a new Mercedes and rolling it off a cliff every year for 4 years.