Anonymous wrote:That's the outcome that is most perplexing to me. The explanation being given by the talking heads is that they were unhappy with the Biden administrations support of Israel. But they obviously realize that a Trump administration would be just as supportive of Israel. I would assume that they would go with the candidate who belongs to a party that has a significant faction of people opposed to supporting Israel, which is non-existent in the Republican party. Can anyone help me make sense of this?

Remember the photo of him with the Saudi prince and a glowing orb?

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Anonymous wrote:It will soon be de facto illegal to publicly criticize Israel without being threatened with deportation for anyone who lacks solid birthright citizenship going back several generations.

But you taught the Democrats a lesson. LOL!

We’ll see.

you do realise that it was basically completely peer pressured, huge consequences for anyone in america to ever say anything other than i am a zionist. I know, im a muslim who is a zionist in that i believe and support an Israeli state should exist free from harrasment and fear of attack from its neighbors. im also against the occupation of WB and Gaza, but i couldnt say the last part, it was a huge taboo to refer to Israel as an occupying power or anything other than a deserved respite for holocaust survivors and purveyor of hummus and falafel. I have been shocked at how quickly that taboo has lifted in the past year, it wont be any big change for the taboo to be enforced again. We have never had 1st amedment rights re:Israel. these kids have broken a huge taboo.

i had never heard of the nakba, i had read alan and naomi and number the stars in 4th grade though. I thought the arabs were mean for not giving some land to the European jews, it never occurred to me that these peopel have literaly been fighting each other for 3000 years since Abraham had a grandson named Jacob and his progeny decided that all of Canaan belonged to them and all the rest of abrahams kids needed to skedaddle. if you read the OT and early muslim history it becomes evident that the children of Jacob are hellbent on taking the whole inheritence and Esaus kids, Ismail's kids and Midians kids need to die. All of these people believe in this similar origin story of abraham teh Patriarch and his offspring and are from this area of the wordl and tehy have been fighting since before Moses even coined Hebrew as a term. All the peopel who belive in thsi myth were not jews, despite what Bill clinton remembers from sunday school 1958, the jews are only the children of one of Abraham's grandkids, he had a lot more grandkids and the rest of them are called Arabs now, they also used to be called samaritans but now they are called Arabs.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

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I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

Why not?

Anonymous wrote:Well, you make your bed, you lie in it. Anyone who thinks Trump will be better for Palestinians than Harris would have been is just silly.

Do you not remember this man’s utter contempt for Muslims and black and brown people? Do you think he’s going to do anything to tolerate Iranian proxies who threaten the US as much as Israel? Do you not recall how he said anyone protesting would be deported?

But off your nose to spite your face.

uhhh we dont want iranian proxies to be tolerated you idiot! The best thing for the muslimsw world would be for the Islamo- fascist mullahs and ayatollahs to fall! Please do what you need to- you think arabs are morning the quds brigade??

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Anonymous wrote:Trump will let Netanyahu do whatever he wants. From now through the next four years, the blood of every dead Gazan child, the death of every innocent Lebanese, will be on the hands of Dearborn Muslims.

Tell me, how did the Biden administration constrain Netanyahu?

For the millionth time, Biden couldn't do much during an election season when the guy he was running against was even more pro-Zionist.

Weak excuses.

Your position is basically "things can't get any worse, so burn it all down."

But, I assure you, things can get worse. No matter bad life gets, it can always get worse.

Giving in to reactionary fatalism is a costly mistake.

But you are just assuring me of that, are you? You want to assure me that under Harris, things would have got better.

And people don't believe you.

That is all.

dems problem is that they think that Gaza/lebanon are a frying pan and we voted to put them in the fire, they are not- there is no frying pan. They are on fire and Harris said she would do evverything the same as biden and was an important part of the decision making team on the View a few weeks ago. harris there was 100% continuation of death, Trump 98% chance death, 2 % chance he'll tell netenyahu to wrap this shit up before the election and the Israelis will keep northern Gaza and WB goes back to occupation status quo of slow attrition and southern gaza goes back to being an open air prison.

Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

You don’t get it. You may never get to vote again. You were manipulated by Russia and China to vote third party to destroy America. Trump is not a normal candidate. He has proudly said he’ll be a dictator.

THIS is the kind of thing that makes my liberal self start being anti-immigration. Don’t flee your dangerous, unstable countries with few rights to come here and vote to take away our rights and make us less safe and stable.

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Anonymous wrote:It will soon be de facto illegal to publicly criticize Israel without being threatened with deportation for anyone who lacks solid birthright citizenship going back several generations.

But you taught the Democrats a lesson. LOL!

It’s soon going to illegal to criticize the USA.

People don’t think about the unintended consequences. Nobody is going to have time to focus on the Middle East when the sh-t starts hitting the fan here. Also, people never think it’s going to affect them - like deportation.

Trumpsters didn’t believe that Obama was a citizen after he showed his birth certificate, so it’s perplexing that people think they’ll be able to have a piece of paper save them.

The constitution and birth certificates are pieces of paper. We give them meaning.

F beginning of your response I thought you were talking about the current administration / dem party. They can try to control speech but all they do is drive it underground and make it more dangerous.

You live in makebelieveland, friend.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

I’m kinda at that point too. I’m ready to save America at this point. I don’t want to hear my Palestinian neighbor, who didn’t vote, complain that her relatives from the WB can’t come into the country for visits like they did after 10/7. I will be fighting for my future grandkids.

Yep. You're on your own this time.

Well, at least we won't have to hear about Gaza or college protests anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:It will soon be de facto illegal to publicly criticize Israel without being threatened with deportation for anyone who lacks solid birthright citizenship going back several generations.

But you taught the Democrats a lesson. LOL!

It’s soon going to illegal to criticize the USA.

People don’t think about the unintended consequences. Nobody is going to have time to focus on the Middle East when the sh-t starts hitting the fan here. Also, people never think it’s going to affect them - like deportation.

Trumpsters didn’t believe that Obama was a citizen after he showed his birth certificate, so it’s perplexing that people think they’ll be able to have a piece of paper save them.

The constitution and birth certificates are pieces of paper. We give them meaning.

F beginning of your response I thought you were talking about the current administration / dem party. They can try to control speech but all they do is drive it underground and make it more dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

I’m kinda at that point too. I’m ready to save America at this point. I don’t want to hear my Palestinian neighbor, who didn’t vote, complain that her relatives from the WB can’t come into the country for visits like they did after 10/7. I will be fighting for my future grandkids.

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Anonymous wrote:It is very short sighted to think that spending billions of dollars on a war to kill people will have no effect at home.

The democratic party learned a hard lesson.

+1

I guess we did. No Muslim ban protests this time, guess we were not good allies. But wishing the best of luck to the campus guys on taking their protests to the new admin.

Anonymous wrote:It will soon be de facto illegal to publicly criticize Israel without being threatened with deportation for anyone who lacks solid birthright citizenship going back several generations.

But you taught the Democrats a lesson. LOL!

It’s soon going to illegal to criticize the USA.

People don’t think about the unintended consequences. Nobody is going to have time to focus on the Middle East when the sh-t starts hitting the fan here. Also, people never think it’s going to affect them - like deportation.

Trumpsters didn’t believe that Obama was a citizen after he showed his birth certificate, so it’s perplexing that people think they’ll be able to have a piece of paper save them.

The constitution and birth certificates are pieces of paper. We give them meaning.

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Anonymous wrote:She didn’t just lose. Republicans got a mandate to lead from the American people of all backgrounds and ages

And in a year's time, when your grocery bill is still high and your housing costs are still high and you struggle to afford healthcare and your dollars continue to shrink, and the Republicans haven't done a damn thing to help you with any of that, are you still going to blindly grant them that mandate like a fool?

That's the essence of democracy. You try things, and if they don't work, next time you try something else.

Until you give a permission slip to a dictator who chips away at democracy over 4 years and then you realize what that democratic vote cost you, too late.

Anonymous wrote:It will soon be de facto illegal to publicly criticize Israel without being threatened with deportation for anyone who lacks solid birthright citizenship going back several generations.

But you taught the Democrats a lesson. LOL!

We’ll see.