Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 18:39     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

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Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade.


How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade. None have read a book cover to cover.

I also voted out BOE members and supported Trump, and hope the DoE is demolished.


And then what happens when DoE is closed?


They are hoping schools stop educating these kids.


The current age based inclusion model is not working when you have such extreme diverse educational needs in a classroom. Teachers are not able to differentiate and meet the needs of all groups so the tendency is to teach to the middle due to lack of time, resources, and manpower. What often ends up happening is that staff have to spend the majority of their time in a variety of ways with the neediest or highest maintenance kids.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 18:27     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:Local only. No DoE.


Schools are mostly managed by local control currently. The DoEd handles policy from Congress including in the form of federal grants and funding to states.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:48     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Local only. No DoE.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:35     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

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Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade.


How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade. None have read a book cover to cover.

I also voted out BOE members and supported Trump, and hope the DoE is demolished.


And then what happens when DoE is closed?


They are hoping schools stop educating these kids.


Homeschool??
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:31     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

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Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade.


How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade. None have read a book cover to cover.

I also voted out BOE members and supported Trump, and hope the DoE is demolished.


And then what happens when DoE is closed?


They are hoping schools stop educating these kids.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:30     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade.


How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade. None have read a book cover to cover.

I also voted out BOE members and supported Trump, and hope the DoE is demolished.


And then what happens when DoE is closed?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:29     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.



How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


So you're making the case for tracking?


Yes yes yes! Bring it back.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:26     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cristo Rey is made up of motivated low income kids. We had a few kids from my Title 1 school go to one of their schools. They all dropped out. They weren’t used to the academic demands and the strict rules.


But imagine if mcps introduced rigorous academics along with setting expectations and instilling personal responsibility from the get go?

^^^
That’s catholic school. Guess what? It works!


MCPS does have rigorous academics. You just have to make some effort and show aptitude. My kids were in CES+magnets for all of their school years. It worked out great even. They both ended up at Ivies and are doing well.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade.


How long ago? Now there is zero homework, no reading of whole novels, no real grammar, spelling, writing instruction. It’s just sad this race to the bottom.


What exactly are they doing in the classroom all day?


Imagine if we dropped off 25 kids to your home today and then said we hope you can get them all to a certain level this year and here’s and the topics you need to cover at least once. Make sure they eat, go to the bathroom, have recess, don’t get hurt, and also have fun. Note you must spend 80% of your day in this one room. Some parents will pickup, some kids will need to get in the bus to go home and others will be walking home. Also parents wants feedback. Here’s a little info about your group: some can’t spell their name, have never been helped to hold a pencil or crayon correctly, can’t zip up their own clothes, don’t know the alphabet. Some won’t learn to tie their shoe strings until 4th grade, many won’t get training wheels off their bike until upper ES (if they even learn to ride a bike). Some have learning disabilities and some know little English.


Now try doing this in high school! So many of my students do not speak English, or speak it well. Some are 16 and have a couple years of schooling. We cannot put a 16 year old in 2nd grade. None have read a book cover to cover.

I also voted out BOE members and supported Trump, and hope the DoE is demolished.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:10     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:Universal pre-k for both 3 and 4-year-olds. It’s the only thing. We have to get them in younger. We are getting kindergarteners who don’t know colors, don’t know their names, can’t use the bathroom, can barely talk in their native language. For whatever reason, parents are just not preparing them. We cannot make up that deficit starting at age 5.


That's the PARENTS' job.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 16:07     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Does MCPS have teachers or social workers who go to the homes of the students to help them and guide them on what they should be doing?
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 14:37     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:They need more able bodied paras or co-teachers


+1. MCPS is light years different that what has gone on in Baltimore City schools. MCPS has its challenges, but part of the reason its optics are soo bad is because it’s large with a contingent of people ready to sue or go to the news about everything. This is a double edge sword in that there are some really engaged parents (some overly involved) which can keep MCPS on its toes, but, that can also make MCPS risk adverse and always on the ready to have to defend.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2024 14:27     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

They need more able bodied paras or co-teachers
Anonymous
Post 11/14/2024 09:19     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Theres gotta be a way to improve the optics. People are going to start thinking mcps is just like Baltimore City in passing students no matter what and firing great teachers who don't fall in like.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 11:37     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is very focused on this problem.


I think that MCPS is very focused on saying they are very focused on this problem


Not giving students who need adequate enrichment (and not just a damn worksheet), yep they found the solution.
Anonymous
Post 11/13/2024 11:32     Subject: How to help MCPS' lowest performing students?

Anonymous wrote:MCPS is very focused on this problem.


I think that MCPS is very focused on saying they are very focused on this problem