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Post 08/26/2024 11:49     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


As a Del Ray resident, I can confirm that the YIMBYs are circling this neighborhood like vultures.


The head of NoVa YIMBYs lives in DelRay and describes himself as a refugee from Arlington. And by that he means that the DelRay schools suck and he want to get a $500K duplex in a top school district in Arlington. One of the other leaders lives in a luxury rental building in North Arlington after moving from Crystal City. For the one year she had her kid in a South Arlington school she waxed eloquent about the diversity of the school as the YIMBY ideal and then --- boom -- she is in one of the best school districts in North Arlington.



How does one become head of NoVa YIMBYs? Is NoVa YIMBYs a group with by-laws and board elections? Or did you just decide that this person is the head?


That person describes himself as the head of NoVa YIMBYs. I do not know their governing structure, but you can join their Facebook page and message the head of NoVa YIMBYs for
details. Are you thinking of unseating him?


"NoVa YIMBYs" is a Facebook group? I thought you were talking about actual people (i.e., YIMBYs who live in Northern Virginia), not a Facebook group. Anybody can be anything on Facebook.
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Post 08/26/2024 11:46     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Parking enforcement is the solution to the problem of illegal parking.


Well until theses localities actually decide to crack down on parking enforcement, that is a moot point. Most of these places have no interest in do that.


Parking enforcement is a huge revenue generator.
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Post 08/26/2024 11:44     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


As a Del Ray resident, I can confirm that the YIMBYs are circling this neighborhood like vultures.


The head of NoVa YIMBYs lives in DelRay and describes himself as a refugee from Arlington. And by that he means that the DelRay schools suck and he want to get a $500K duplex in a top school district in Arlington. One of the other leaders lives in a luxury rental building in North Arlington after moving from Crystal City. For the one year she had her kid in a South Arlington school she waxed eloquent about the diversity of the school as the YIMBY ideal and then --- boom -- she is in one of the best school districts in North Arlington.



How does one become head of NoVa YIMBYs? Is NoVa YIMBYs a group with by-laws and board elections? Or did you just decide that this person is the head?


rhetorical question #100
Since you know the answer, what do you want us to know?


I guess the answer is that you just decided this person is the head. You seem to know a lot about his personal life, statements, and preferences.


He is very vocal on the YIMBY Facebook page and in public utterances. He overshares.
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Post 08/26/2024 11:43     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


As a Del Ray resident, I can confirm that the YIMBYs are circling this neighborhood like vultures.


The head of NoVa YIMBYs lives in DelRay and describes himself as a refugee from Arlington. And by that he means that the DelRay schools suck and he want to get a $500K duplex in a top school district in Arlington. One of the other leaders lives in a luxury rental building in North Arlington after moving from Crystal City. For the one year she had her kid in a South Arlington school she waxed eloquent about the diversity of the school as the YIMBY ideal and then --- boom -- she is in one of the best school districts in North Arlington.



How does one become head of NoVa YIMBYs? Is NoVa YIMBYs a group with by-laws and board elections? Or did you just decide that this person is the head?


That person describes himself as the head of NoVa YIMBYs. I do not know their governing structure, but you can join their Facebook page and message the head of NoVa YIMBYs for
details. Are you thinking of unseating him?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:42     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


I also explained why they had to choose the cheaper but less efficient option. Landlords need to pay taxes. I know that’s an unpopular position in YIMBYland but you can’t have nice things without revenue.


You do realize this has nothing to do with revenue right? you could raise all the property tax you want, and they would still send fire trucks to deal with medical emergencies. Its not like this in other countries btw.


You do realize it wasn’t always this way in most of this country but became the norm in response to tight staffing arising from insufficient funding, right?
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:39     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


I also explained why they had to choose the cheaper but less efficient option. Landlords need to pay taxes. I know that’s an unpopular position in YIMBYland but you can’t have nice things without revenue.


No, you don't know that, because it's not so.


Policy and advocacy tell a different story. YIMBYs love tax breaks for developers. It’s one of many places where they’re highly aligned with the Koch family and Sheldon Adelson.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:36     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


I also explained why they had to choose the cheaper but less efficient option. Landlords need to pay taxes. I know that’s an unpopular position in YIMBYland but you can’t have nice things without revenue.


You do realize this has nothing to do with revenue right? you could raise all the property tax you want, and they would still send fire trucks to deal with medical emergencies. Its not like this in other countries btw.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:22     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


I also explained why they had to choose the cheaper but less efficient option. Landlords need to pay taxes. I know that’s an unpopular position in YIMBYland but you can’t have nice things without revenue.


No, you don't know that, because it's not so.
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:16     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


I also explained why they had to choose the cheaper but less efficient option. Landlords need to pay taxes. I know that’s an unpopular position in YIMBYland but you can’t have nice things without revenue.
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Post 08/26/2024 11:13     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


Don’t you know that YIMBYs, Density Bros and Bike Bros (I may be redundant here) know best? They’re emergency response specialists, transportation engineers, housing economists, and business management consultants, all rolled into one!


Go ahead and keep defending the use of ladder trucks to respond to heart attack calls.
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Post 08/26/2024 11:06     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


YIMBYs have to be experts. After all, how else would the know that building a 7 story apartment complex with no parking won't lead to more neighborhood permits than available spaces
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Post 08/26/2024 11:06     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Your taxes are the only way they’ll fund all of the services they want but can’t afford.

YIMBYs are the result of society giving an entire generation trophies for losing.


This. Young and stupid. At least when we were young and stupid we didn't have a voice. They have one now are trying to ruin the country. Grow up or move to another country more to your liking, OP.


DP. Since this is happening, maybe you're the one who will need to accept it or move to another country to more to your liking?


It is people like you who will cause an insane person like Tr*mp to get elected. The majority of the US doesn't believe in your ultra-progressive causes. You even turn off those of use who want progress. You push too hard too fast and the cause breaks and you lose ground.


+1,000,000


This all actually is Trump's fault. He was and is so awful that progressives were able to take over the Democractic party, while all the Democratic party has to do is say Trump is awful to win. They do not have to run on substance. The progressive stances are not coming to light.
But actually, Trump won because neither party would address immigration, one of the most if not the most important issue to Americans. So the horribleness is circular.


The Democrats have pushed comprehensive immigration reform for decades. It's Trump who has blocked it and refused to do anything on immigration.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal/index.html
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Post 08/26/2024 11:04     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.


Don’t you know that YIMBYs, Density Bros and Bike Bros (I may be redundant here) know best? They’re emergency response specialists, transportation engineers, housing economists, and business management consultants, all rolled into one!
Anonymous
Post 08/26/2024 11:00     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


Uh, are you familiar with DC’s problems in dispatching ambulances? Fire trucks often can respond faster.
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Post 08/26/2024 10:59     Subject: The DMV needs a YIMBY revolution

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Anonymous wrote:Why can't YIMBYs be happy living in their crowded apartment buildings in NoMa or Navy Yard, or whatever the new hotspot is, and walking to whatever fancy restaurants and gyms make them happy, and leave the rest of us alone? It always feels like, deep down, they are miserable and want to spread that misery to everyone.


Bingo. Miserable people who resent anyone who lives in a single-family home with a nice yard. This thread is hilarious.


+1

It's a bunch of self congratulatory wannabee intellectuals that can't afford a SFH in..... Del Ray, so they want to instead ruin it for those that can. Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people how they need to live.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell other people what they are and aren't allowed to do with their own property.


This is what I don’t understand about YIMBYs. It’s not surprising that people why buy homes within a SFH neighborhood choose the location because they want to be IN a SFH neighborhood. If an apartment building goes up nextdoor they are no longer in the neighborhood they bought in.

If you already live in a mixed use community that gets more densely developed that’s a different story because it doesn’t change the entire structure of the neighborhood.


Imagine the level of entitlement it takes to tell your neighbor that they're not allowed to build a building on their property, because you don't like change.


There must be a major difference/disconnect in how people feel about their neighborhoods. It’s clear that there are those that truly feel that you should only care about your own house and not care about the neighborhood as a whole or what you’re living nextdoor to.

There are also many of us who value our neighborhoods as a whole, whether it’s a TH development, a SFH development or condo community. We bought based on the entire neighborhood and not just our personal homes. If we wanted to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, we would have bought next to one.


There's a meaningful distinction between "care about" and "own". I care about my neighborhood. I don't tell my neighbor he can't paint his door a color I don't like.

If you don't want to live next to a business or apartment or whatever, then you need to buy the property next door.


There’s a big difference in living next to a home with a door color you don’t care for and living next to a multi family unit in your SFH neighborhood. Not remotely a similar comparison.


They can build a 2-4 unit building that looks just like a single family new construction. Obviously there would be more people but the look of the neighborhood doesn't have to change much.

It's like the rowhouses neighborhoods in DC. The 2-4 unit rowhouses look exactly the same as single family rowhouses.


I don’t actually have an issue with this with the exception that when it comes to issues related to insufficient parking, overcrowded schools, infrastructure, etc. that follow from these changes, the local governments always stick their head in the sand and pretend like they had no idea those issues would crop up.


Let's talk about that. When you say "insufficient parking", specifically what kinds of problems do you expect? People will park their cars where you want to park your car? People will double park and box in your car? People will park their cars on the street in front of your house? People will come to blows over parking spaces? Or what?


Do you actually live in this area and own a car? Because if you do then you already know.


What ends up happening is people park their cars on both sides of the street and block traffic. Then emergency vehicles cannot access the street and someone dies in a house fire because the fire truck cannot reach a burning building. Same thing for a ambulances, bad urban planning increases the risk that Grandma dies from a heart attack because insufficient parking creates obstacles to accessing her house. YIMBYs want to upzone everything and ignore the real-world consequences of their magical beliefs. There is real harm created by just allowing people to build whatever they want without consideration for infrastructure capacity.


Seems like a better solution for that problem would be downsizing for cars. Sick of those giant cars not fitting in parking spaces too.


Not sending a Hook-and-Ladder to deal with grandma's heart attack would also help. A van based ambulance could get into a lot of spaces large firetrucks can't


We’re so lucky that the YIMBYs know how to efficiently staff an effective fire protection service. It would be great to have purpose-built apparatus for every emergency and the people to staff them but local governments can’t afford that, in part because the YIMBYs have hollowed out the tax base through laws that exempt some of the new development from property taxes.

(They send the ladder truck because the paramedic has two jobs. One is on the ladder truck and the other is being a paramedic. The apparatus goes with the paramedic because otherwise it would have to go out of service for insufficient staffing every time your van-based ambulance took the paramedic somewhere else).


You're explaining why they do it. You're also explaining why it's vastly inefficient just in terms of emergency response.