Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there evidence that traffic cameras have made DC safer? Obviously, people slow down when there's cameras. But the flip side is that people drive worse when they know we've turned traffic enforcement over to the cameras and, if you're on a street with no cameras (which is most of them), you can do anything you want. How do we know those two things net out to something better than when we didn't have cameras and motorists had to worry about cops pulling them over?

Yes, there is evidence that traffic cameras make streets safer. There's no asterisk for *except in DC.

Here's the number of people in DC killed by speeding drivers in past dozen years. Kindly point out to us where traffic cameras started making a difference.

2022 -- 9
2021 -- 12
2020 -- 15
2019 -- 10
2018 -- 9
2017 -- 12
2016 -- 8
2015 -- 11
2014 -- 12
2013 -- 11
2012 -- 5
2011 -- 15
2010 -- 8

Note: the higher numbers cited in another post include ALL traffic deaths, which include people killed by drunk and stoned drivers, pedestrians stepping in front of buses, motorists having heart attacks, etc. Obviously traffic cameras can't possibly do anything about those.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic fatalities have doubled since D.C.’s promise of zero

"D.C.’s Vision Zero plan has relied heavily on camera enforcement to catch speeders, who are more likely to cause dangerous crashes. But The Post found that of the 33 people killed in traffic crashes this year, nine died within 250 feet of a traffic camera."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/23/vision-zero-dc-traffic-deaths/

Another Bowser program that is a failure.

I actually don't think it qualifies as a failure, because "Vision Zero" was always a smokescreen. The goal was always revenue generation. It should have been obvious to anyone that randomly placing cameras in only isolated locations, and having people drive more erratically in those specific locations and more aggressively everywhere else, could not possibly have anything to do with making roads safer.

Anonymous wrote:Traffic fatalities have doubled since D.C.’s promise of zero

"D.C.’s Vision Zero plan has relied heavily on camera enforcement to catch speeders, who are more likely to cause dangerous crashes. But The Post found that of the 33 people killed in traffic crashes this year, nine died within 250 feet of a traffic camera."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/08/23/vision-zero-dc-traffic-deaths/

Another Bowser program that is a failure.

Anonymous wrote:I guess the dirty little secret is out in the open. The speed cameras have not decreased traffic deaths. They have raised a lot of money though. No wonder MD and VA won't provide reciprocity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think this is great. Post speed cameras like crazy where VA and MD drivers come into the city until those states pay their fair share for permanent, dedicated, and sufficient funding to WMATA.

Yes, but the problem is there's no way to get VA or MD drivers to pay those fines.