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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

They cut their tuition below $10k?

With Merit aid, yeah.

Please name them.

And out my family to you nice people? Hell no.

I have no idea why you're so invested in UMD, and the fact that you're not even going through college admissions right now makes your opinion even more sad and suss. The fact that another poster comes in here with a story about their own experience and you attack and insinuate things about their kid is also, btw, beyond horrible. Why on earth would I open up my own family to your nasty crap?

No, Virginia, when everyone doesn't want the same things you do that isn't because they're jealous. Sometimes it's just because you're ignorant and have no taste.

DP. How would naming the colleges out your family? Aren’t their thousands of students attending?

Not thousands, no. Small schools. Of course, the PP has the privilege of having her kids attend a larger one. I wouldn't name them because we have t decided and they are small. There are also larger options, including (I assume, haven't heard yet) UMBC and St Marys.

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

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4.1/3.7 9 AP/IB/DE
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He is really bummed since his out of state options didn't give enough to make it feasible for us. So UMBC or Towson it will be (he has taken classes in HS at the CC and hasn't been impressed so doesn't want to go that route.)

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Anonymous wrote:Amend that. UMD CP is technically 11,200 tuition, total coa with room and board 30k.

Baltimore is 12k tuition to total about the same.

St Marys, same, but they add a 3k "fee" on top of their tuition, making it the highest of the bunch.

Yes, private colleges in the top 100 are offering merit aid to students that will at least match, if not best, those prices.

Now, if you need an option where your student has to live at home, I'm sure UMCP seems like a better deal.

UMD has about the lowest in state tuition in the Big 10. Lower in state than most are all surrounding states, i.e., VT, UDel, PennState, etc. PP is just trying to get people riled up.

Ah, are we only doing the top 10 now?

So which is, are you all for equity and inclusion? Or are you a horrible snob who just happens to be provincial enough to think that UMD is the top of the heap?

Big 10 not Top 10. Do you not watch football?

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

Agree. The white male notation gave it away.

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Though, if not a troll, he wrote a hella offensive essay and his letters of recommendation were lukewarm at best and possibly cautionary.

Wtf is wrong with you?

You should ask that question while stating in a mirror? You wrote a troll post that your son was rejected with great stats. What was your end goal? I suspect it’s a MAGA thing.

FFS, it’s clearly not a troll. Unfortunately this happens. And yes it’s offensive that you said the essay must have been offensive or the recommendations were bad.

It doesn’t happen with those stats. NM semi-finalist especially. Especially as students with lower stats were admitted. She added the white male part to rile people up. The essay was probably about the “Great Replacement”.

Did you not read the follow up? Apparently it does happen, because it did.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

Agree. The white male notation gave it away.

+2

Though, if not a troll, he wrote a hella offensive essay and his letters of recommendation were lukewarm at best and possibly cautionary.

Wtf is wrong with you?

You should ask that question while stating in a mirror? You wrote a troll post that your son was rejected with great stats. What was your end goal? I suspect it’s a MAGA thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

They cut their tuition below $10k?

With Merit aid, yeah.

Please name them.

And out my family to you nice people? Hell no.

I have no idea why you're so invested in UMD, and the fact that you're not even going through college admissions right now makes your opinion even more sad and suss. The fact that another poster comes in here with a story about their own experience and you attack and insinuate things about their kid is also, btw, beyond horrible. Why on earth would I open up my own family to your nasty crap?

No, Virginia, when everyone doesn't want the same things you do that isn't because they're jealous. Sometimes it's just because you're ignorant and have no taste.

DP. How would naming the colleges out your family? Aren’t their thousands of students attending?

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Anonymous wrote:To answer several persistent questions...

Honors>>>>Scholars>>other stuff

Money comes later (Mid-late Feb?) but don't expect a lot in-state, if anything. And Honors is *not* a guarantee of money though probably better chance but some non Honors admits get money too. BK, is, (I think) from Honors admits only however.

Honors is worthwhile if just for the housing and you may find it useful generally too. UH and Aces have the best housing and UH housing (PC and JW) is more convenient than ACES (PF Hall). There are other perfectly fine dorms too if you aren't Honors or are in other Honors programs. UH is easily the biggest Honors program, its the default, least specialized) but best housing and most class options.

There are also Honors versions of some key classes available only to Honors kids. Calculus, for example, and at least in that, all class hours are with the instructor in smaller classes. No discussion section with a TA, no huge lecture hall. Note, many TAs are fantastic, not trying to be critical.

Other programs (Scholars, etc) can be good opportunities but consider the cost (in time/effort): benefit analysis. Consider it even with Honors. Its 15 Credits in Honors. Is the payoff worth it? With the housing, yes, imo. Absent that...maybe.

FC is no big deal. In fact, kids I know like it. Don't view it as a failure. Look at some of the kids who didn't get in...its just a way for them to take more of the kids they should have taken in the first place...

Comp Sci..it will be much harder to declare CS for anyone not admitted directly. Not impossible but I would say do not count on it. Up til now, changing to CS has been fairly easy. Not easy anymore. Have a plan B or go somewhere else.

Thanks for the pertinent info. Does Honors guarantee housing for 4 yrs?

No most of the programs are 2 years. Varies by program. Info on website

That is inaccurate. Even if a program is 2 years, honors students are guaranteed 4 years of housing on campus. However, I don’t know any UMD student that stayed on campus 4 years. They all move off campus.

I made the mistake of checking a UMD Facebook group today. It wasn't even about housing. Except it was. Housing was all it was. Grim, tiny rooms in cheap apartment complexes in Greenbelt. Parking lots and highways. 1,000 a month to live with four roommates like you're in an exurban dystopia. What fun.

Huh? Thousands of student live within a half mile of campus. Something like 10 apartment complexes within walking distance.

Grim tiny rooms next to a highway in College Park? Where do I sign?

Maybe it’s time for your snowflake to live their own life?

Y'all are so defensive about a school no one else in the country cares about. I just think it's sad to see so many highly intelligent kids with so much potential pigeonholed into such narrow boxes in such an ugly provincial place.

Geez. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. No one gives a crap about what you think.

Not at all, lol. College Park was never on our list because it's an ugly, provincial place. It honestly just makes me sad, with so many excellent colleges out there that so many of you have such a small window for "success" for your kids. You only want them to have one of two or three majors, you only want them to stay in this area, you only want them to work for a limited number of government-subsidized local companies or agencies.

Your kids have so much potential, and this is all you can see.

dp.. my kid's potential is a double STEM major +1 year master, graduating in 4 years from UMD because that's what they want.

"Excellent" college is subjective. My DC#2 absolutely does not want a SLAC in the middle of nowhere. They would call that "provincial", and boring AF.

UMD is T50. Why on earth would people pay money for a college that is rated much much lower, and where the job prospects are much lower. Most of us don't have family money such that our kids can just do whatever they want and not think about getting a good paying job? Do you know how many grads can't find decent jobs after college?

I want my kids to go wherever they want. I have encouraged them to go study abroad. My spouse is a dual citizen, and we've encouraged them to go live in that country for a while. I've also told them to not be tied to this area. I'm originally from CA, and DC#2 wants to move back there at some point.

So you are also wrong about UMD parents wanting them to live "provincial" lives. This area is a very diverse area, more so than the Bay Area where I moved from. If my kids want to stay here, I see nothing wrong with that. It's more diverse than the vast majority of cities around the world. Ask anyone who has lived in a different country and who now lives here (like my spouse). Also, my kids are biracial, and there are some places in this country and around the world that I would not want them to live in.

You sound like an utter snob and completely clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

Agree. The white male notation gave it away.

+2

Though, if not a troll, he wrote a hella offensive essay and his letters of recommendation were lukewarm at best and possibly cautionary.

Wtf is wrong with you?

You should ask that question while stating in a mirror? You wrote a troll post that your son was rejected with great stats. What was your end goal? I suspect it’s a MAGA thing.

FFS, it’s clearly not a troll. Unfortunately this happens. And yes it’s offensive that you said the essay must have been offensive or the recommendations were bad.

It doesn’t happen with those stats. NM semi-finalist especially. Especially as students with lower stats were admitted. She added the white male part to rile people up. The essay was probably about the “Great Replacement”.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

They cut their tuition below $10k?

With Merit aid, yeah.

Please name them.

And out my family to you nice people? Hell no.

I have no idea why you're so invested in UMD, and the fact that you're not even going through college admissions right now makes your opinion even more sad and suss. The fact that another poster comes in here with a story about their own experience and you attack and insinuate things about their kid is also, btw, beyond horrible. Why on earth would I open up my own family to your nasty crap?

No, Virginia, when everyone doesn't want the same things you do that isn't because they're jealous. Sometimes it's just because you're ignorant and have no taste.

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Anonymous wrote:DC was rejected from UMD engineering with 1550 SAT, 4.73 GPA, national merit semifinalist, Blair magnet program, a lot of good ECs although not president of a club or anything like that. In state white male.

I never expected a rejection from UMD.

This has to be bs, I'm sorry. I hereby id this poster as a troll.

(Caveat, troll says rejected from ENGR not Umd) Did troll get into L&S?

I don't know everything but every resident kid with these stats is admitted. Does this kid have a criminal record or some other black eye on the application?

Agree. The white male notation gave it away.

+2

Though, if not a troll, he wrote a hella offensive essay and his letters of recommendation were lukewarm at best and possibly cautionary.

Wtf is wrong with you?

You should ask that question while stating in a mirror? You wrote a troll post that your son was rejected with great stats. What was your end goal? I suspect it’s a MAGA thing.

FFS, it’s clearly not a troll. Unfortunately this happens. And yes it’s offensive that you said the essay must have been offensive or the recommendations were bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

They cut their tuition below $10k?

With Merit aid, yeah.

Please name them.

And out my family to you nice people? Hell no.

I have no idea why you're so invested in UMD, and the fact that you're not even going through college admissions right now makes your opinion even more sad and suss. The fact that another poster comes in here with a story about their own experience and you attack and insinuate things about their kid is also, btw, beyond horrible. Why on earth would I open up my own family to your nasty crap?

No, Virginia, when everyone doesn't want the same things you do that isn't because they're jealous. Sometimes it's just because you're ignorant and have no taste.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.

They cut their tuition below $10k?

With Merit aid, yeah.

Please name them.

And out my family to you nice people? Hell no.

I have no idea why you're so invested in UMD, and the fact that you're not even going through college admissions right now makes your opinion even more sad and suss. The fact that another poster comes in here with a story about their own experience and you attack and insinuate things about their kid is also, btw, beyond horrible. Why on earth would I open up my own family to your nasty crap?

No, Virginia, when everyone doesn't want the same things you do that isn't because they're jealous. Sometimes it's just because you're ignorant and have no taste.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to name them, but two of the schools on DC's acceptance list cut their tuition prices a few years back--an increasingly common practice for private schools to stay competitive.

They're good schools but If I named them, no doubt you'd tell me they aren't "good enough," but since you were the one who told Me to check my privilege about UMDCP (an option we didn't actually consider, although we did consider the other two in MD), I'd tell you to go where there's no sun shining.