Anonymous
11/24/2023 09:24
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
And why exactly is “Smart Growth” needed in Chevy Chase DC which was planned as a low-scale leafy semi suburban neighborhood. There have been and are plenty of locations in DC where dense, tall and mixed -use development is welcomed, like the Wharf, Nancy Yard, etc. DC has a diversity of neighborhoods with different attributes that make many singular if not unique. Is it necessary that they all look the same?
Anonymous
11/24/2023 09:23
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s
You are basically lying out of your a**. There were almost zero houses going for over $1MM in 1991…none. There is a small house being offered as we speak for $900k. The median price in 1991 was likely around $250k…and that is generous.
Ummm....no. You obviously are not from the area. Thanks for calling.
Continue to live in the area for many years. It is you who again are just making s**t up.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 08:22
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
There are no agricultural areas in the district. Do you really think people who are trying to buy new build homes in Germantown or Herndon would prefer to live in a high-rise in DC?
Exactly. People moving to Germantown want a family house with a yard or at least a townhouse. A junior-one bedroom with den flat on Connecticut Ave or at City Ridge is not a viable substitute for them.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 08:20
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
The development lobby wants to eliminate single family home zoning and streets in Northwest DC to build apartment and condo buildings anytime, anywhere without “government regulation.”
Anonymous
11/24/2023 08:11
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
There are no agricultural areas in the district. Do you really think people who are trying to buy new build homes in Germantown or Herndon would prefer to live in a high-rise in DC?
Anonymous
11/24/2023 07:42
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
Some of that makes sense apart from bike lanes. Just not practical for families and in the type of extreme weather conditions that DC has.
DC doesn't have extreme weather conditions. It doesn't have the cold of Minneapolis or the heat of Phoenix. Not even close. Yes, it does have seasons, but it basically is about the same, perhaps better, than New York City, and New York has hundreds of miles of well used bike lanes. Try again for some other excuse, because this one doesn't fly.
Anonymous
11/24/2023 05:14
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s
You are basically lying out of your a**. There were almost zero houses going for over $1MM in 1991…none. There is a small house being offered as we speak for $900k. The median price in 1991 was likely around $250k…and that is generous.
I live in Bethesda and my house was sold in ‘86 for $380k. My neighborhood would never be considered close to as prestigious as CCDC. So you’re wrong too.
What are you talking about…there has always been a premium for crossing the border into MD from DC, such that identical houses straddling Western Avenue were worth several hundred thousand $$$s more on the MD side.
My neighbor selling their 3000 sw ft house in CCDC for around $1.5MM paid $260k for the house in 1996.
Have you checked the resale value of your $380k Bethesda home?
You think there’s a MD premium on home values? Sorry, I’m not going to listen to you anymore.
Anonymous
11/23/2023 23:41
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
Not sure siding with the pro defund the police and pro housing vouchers ANC and CM is a winning strategy in light of current conditions
Neither of those have anything to do with a historic district.
Luckily it is easy to side with private property rights and mindless regulations on getting a new window or door or exterior light or tons of other things.
It unites everyone of all persuasions in opposition.
How Trumpy. You’re either woefully ignorant or deliberately making SF$! up.
Nah…just pointing out the obvious…but you clearly are some old f**k that just wishes nothing would change.
NP here, your smugness is reprehensible. All you've managed to do is galvanize a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't have given an F. Keep it up.
Anonymous
11/23/2023 23:38
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s
You are basically lying out of your a**. There were almost zero houses going for over $1MM in 1991…none. There is a small house being offered as we speak for $900k. The median price in 1991 was likely around $250k…and that is generous.
What drugs are you on and how can I get some? Please, go back to the suburbs and stop ruining the district
Anonymous
11/23/2023 23:29
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Upper CC on the DC side in the 70’s and 80’s. Homes were not being built back then. They had been there for a very long time. Back then houses were for sale and were not bought for quite some time. Not because they were expensive. Back then, nobody wanted to live there. They wanted Bethesda or the MD side of CC. It was around 1991 I remember a real small house off Military and 32nd going for over a million. From there, it just got stupid on hosing prices. A lot of those homes are from the 40’s and 50’s
You are basically lying out of your a**. There were almost zero houses going for over $1MM in 1991…none. There is a small house being offered as we speak for $900k. The median price in 1991 was likely around $250k…and that is generous.
Ummm....no. You obviously are not from the area. Thanks for calling.
Anonymous
11/23/2023 22:15
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
Some of that makes sense apart from bike lanes. Just not practical for families and in the type of extreme weather conditions that DC has.
Anonymous
11/23/2023 21:50
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Not true. The ANC can weigh in on the proposal and the Historic Preservation Office and the Historic Preservation Review Board has to give their input "great weight"
Anonymous
11/23/2023 21:47
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?
In this context it is focusing regional development around metro stations and improving "last mile" solutions like bike share, bike lanes and car share so as to save the agriculture areas in the exurbs because plowing under those fields for single family subdivisions is horrible land use policy.
Anonymous
11/23/2023 21:46
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are a number of historic districts that n Washington DC and most residents seem quite happy with them.
I wouldn’t say most residents are happy with them vs most residents tolerate them.
On the one hand, nobody moves into Georgetown planning to tear down an 18th century home and replace with a modern home.
However, CC has absolutely no common style and there are many homes built after 1980.
This is one person’s mission to impose their aesthetic in the population. Again, it has no popular support.
The area proposed has very few houses built after 1980 - the ones I can think of were duplexes that came after single family older homes were torn down.
There was at least one teardown/rebuild recently on Livingston. Another one is going on right now on Military rd. If you go down a few of the side streets between reno and conn ave, you can see some houses that are way more modern than others which were also teardowns. These projects would have have been sufficiently difficult to execute that they may not have happened if the area had the historical district designation on it previously.
None of those houses would be considered contributing to a historic district. I read the application and the period of significance extends to 1964. So anything built after would be considered "non contributing"
As to whether those newer projects would be more difficult under a historic district, well, the razes for contributing strucutres would not have been allowed, so...
Anonymous
11/23/2023 21:25
Subject: Chevy Chase Community Center Redevelopment
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well, I don't think any of this shit matters. Mary Rowse unilaterally filed her 20 year old Historic District designation request this week. Now everyone in this area will be doomed to kneeling at her altar and begging to be able to do light gray paint rather than white.
Historic preservation doesn't cover paint color.
Wood siding with stucco then. Jesus. Same thing. Mary and crew gonna give everyone a hard time just because they can and they enjoy exercising power over others.
They tried to create a historic district 15 years ago and the community voted it down by a 4-to-1 margin.
Frumin is against and let’s hope the process at least is the same as last time as I think the community will again vote it down by a similarly wide margin.
Didn’t realize Chairman Frumin had power over historic designations.
He doesn’t, but assuming all the ANCs are against, the affected population is against and the Ward 3 rep is against…makes it hard to approve.
The ANCs have no role in the historic designation process.
Most of the Connecticut Corridor ANCs now are pro-smart growth and against preservation.
What, exactly, is smart growth? And why do they think it is needed?