Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 13:12     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:A lot like the electoral college system here. They don't want all of the political power to be aggregated in one place. Sort of the same with opportunities


We should hold Olympics like this too since this is such a great way to find talents.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 13:02     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
A lot like the electoral college system here. They don't want all of the political power to be aggregated in one place. Sort of the same with opportunities
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 13:02     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list


Seems like he was judged as not good enough compared to his peers (mostly Asians). Doesn’t this reinforce the notion that Asians are held to a higher standard just because they are competing with other Asians instead of being judged in relation to the general population?

It is ridiculous that going to a high performing, rich suburb school actually penalized him. He should have gone to a mediocre high school and be the top student. Then he will be accepted everywhere.

This is the state of US college admissions. Something has to be changed esp for state school systems such as the UCs.



No, in that case, he will be dismissed as not 'well-rounded' and if he presents a 'well-rounded' application, he will be dismissed as not 'standing out' from other Asian applicants. In addition, he will be stereotyped as robotic, one-dimensional, lacking leadership skills, lacking positive personality traits, and lacking whatever else they can come up with that can be negative.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 13:00     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list


Seems like he was judged as not good enough compared to his peers (mostly Asians). Doesn’t this reinforce the notion that Asians are held to a higher standard just because they are competing with other Asians instead of being judged in relation to the general population?

It is ridiculous that going to a high performing, rich suburb school actually penalized him. He should have gone to a mediocre high school and be the top student. Then he will be accepted everywhere.

This is the state of US college admissions. Something has to be changed esp for state school systems such as the UCs.



Yes, he was judged against his peers and penalized for going to a high performing school. The same thing happens across the country.

Unfortunately, we don't have a uniform system of grading or even curriculum in this country--not even at the state level. Even with standardized tests, how does a school compare students in relation to the general population?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:59     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
I have recently read about a lot of families moving far away from places like New York City, Washington DC etc for that exact reason. Especially since so many can work from home now. Entire families leave to live in rural areas where there is no competition from their classmates.

Pretty messed up, right?
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:53     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list


Seems like he was judged as not good enough compared to his peers (mostly Asians). Doesn’t this reinforce the notion that Asians are held to a higher standard just because they are competing with other Asians instead of being judged in relation to the general population?

It is ridiculous that going to a high performing, rich suburb school actually penalized him. He should have gone to a mediocre high school and be the top student. Then he will be accepted everywhere.

This is the state of US college admissions. Something has to be changed esp for state school systems such as the UCs.

Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:42     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary


That is 457 and approaching 100% of the graduating class.

I see the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, JHU, UChicago, CMU, and basically all of the other coveted destinations.

A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list


+1

Sir / Madam

You have debated yourself into a corner from which you cannot escape. The facts don't support your assertion.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:39     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary


That is 457 and approaching 100% of the graduating class.

I see the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, JHU, UChicago, CMU, and basically all of the other coveted destinations.

A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list

Again, if he had a black skin color….
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:36     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
What? They knew he was going to drop out at some point. He doesn't need a college and colleges don't need a drop-out. Win-win.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:31     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary


This is matriculation not acceptances.


Matriculation just means enrolled. The number of accepted will be even higher. The success rate at that high school is incredible!
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:29     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary


That is 457 and approaching 100% of the graduating class.

I see the Ivies, Stanford, MIT, JHU, UChicago, CMU, and basically all of the other coveted destinations.

A lot of talented Asian students left Gunn HS last year and moved on to the very same schools on Zhang's list. With a 60% Asian population at Gunn we know that many, many, many of them were Asian.

It is hard for me to believe Zhang was rejected because he is Asian when his Asian classmates were accepted to the same schools on his list
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:17     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
…the UC system admits the top 9% of each school.


To UC Merced. No high performing CA kid who slaved their high school lives away taking lots and lots of APs want to go to Merced. The UC system should change their admission procedure to where each high performing CA kid is offered a slot in one of the top UCs instead of offering some students 5 slots while none to others.


I agree that CA should change the policy. But to be clear, if the top 9% (statewide index) do not get into their campus of choice--they are offered UC Merced, space permitted. Doesn't seem like he was offered UC Merced.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:14     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary


This is matriculation not acceptances.
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:12     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Anonymous wrote:It’s his dad who should be admitted lol
So tired of all the lies
Surely his google dad has nothing to do with his job or his startup yeah sure!
And people defending him on fb college groups?
Soviet emigres claiming their kids are first Gen, among others
It’s the same crowd, people from tiger cultures (not only Asian) who stop at nothing to give their kids a leg up… coming to america and lying… well guess what not all Americans are gullible
I am an immigrant myself and believe me I’ve seen people playing the game!


Oh God, let's stop involved parents and only admit single parent urms
Anonymous
Post 10/13/2023 12:06     Subject: Hired by Google as L4 but rejected by top colleges
Here are the Gunn HS college acceptances. 6 to Merced. About 60 to the other UC campuses. And a whole lot of other great schools.

https://gunn.pausd.org/campus-life/college-career-center/college-matriculation-summary