Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 10:11     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Classic Republican weasel.

That’s a nicer way of putting what I was thinking of him. And the rest of the GOP weasels.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 10:04     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:


Classic Republican weasel.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 09:04     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:Latest on the shutdown via WP...

Hard-liners plot to replace McCarthy with a deputy as shutdown looms

A contingent of far-right House Republicans are plotting an attempt to remove Kevin McCarthy as House speaker as early as next week, a move that would throw the chamber into further disarray in the middle of a potential government shutdown, according to four people familiar with the effort who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.

Some members of the far-right faction of the party are coalescing around nominating a member of McCarthy’s leadership team, Rep. Tom Emmer (Minn.), to be the next speaker if they can successfully oust McCarthy, according to those people. The members think Emmer is more attuned to their concerns and will better deliver conservative results.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/28/kevin-mccarthy-tom-emmer-government-shutdown-motion-vacate/


And what's their plan to get the votes needed for that?
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 09:02     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:There needs to be some serious work done and I support not finding the Ukraine war any further. We have a terrible economy here, a border crisis, more people struggling with debt than ever before and don’t have the money to be wasting over there that isn’t being accounted for. The billions could be spent here on job retraining programs, aid for AMERICANS needing help (not illegal aliens, they should be deported anyways) and rebuilding our energy infrastructure. Let Europe deal with the Ukraine issue it’s their backyard.

We have to pull back spending and come up with a viable strategy for when the other countries move away from the dollar.

The reason there is an issue is because of Biden’s terrible foreign policy and economy.

Most people outside the DC bubble Don’t give two sh*ts about the war in the Ukraine, most just want to put food in the table and pay for their energy bills which keep going up. Gas is through the roof again, people can’t afford groceries and they want someone who wants to help them here but some former communist country that was ranked one if the most corrupt governments in the world before the war broke out. Let’s not talk about the hundreds of thousands of lives lost because proper refuse to come to a deal.


If the shutdown makes them funnel money away from a pointless war that we could have been avoided to domestic programs and border security than so be it. Government employees will be kid regardless and SS and VA benefits are still being distributed.



-Except that the MAGAs who are startlingly eager to have the government shut down have absolutely ZERO interest in helping “most (people) put food on the table and pay for their energy bills”. That’s not what’s derailing this. They are playing games and indulging in petty “culture wars” — not trying to propose ways for people to afford housing and groceries or strengthen domestic programs, or even domestic security.

Gosh! Pretending that the war in Ukraine doesn’t matter to US interests is a very Russian viewpoint. If the MAGAs get their way, millions of people in the US will be economically vulnerable— from people who need their paychecks to the small businesses that depend on them to survive. Corporations will be fine. The MAGAs in congress will be fine, as they continue to get their own taxpayer supported paychecks, pensions, and healthcare. And Putin will be thrilled.



Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 08:34     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Latest on the shutdown via WP...

Hard-liners plot to replace McCarthy with a deputy as shutdown looms

A contingent of far-right House Republicans are plotting an attempt to remove Kevin McCarthy as House speaker as early as next week, a move that would throw the chamber into further disarray in the middle of a potential government shutdown, according to four people familiar with the effort who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.

Some members of the far-right faction of the party are coalescing around nominating a member of McCarthy’s leadership team, Rep. Tom Emmer (Minn.), to be the next speaker if they can successfully oust McCarthy, according to those people. The members think Emmer is more attuned to their concerns and will better deliver conservative results.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/28/kevin-mccarthy-tom-emmer-government-shutdown-motion-vacate/


They are delusional idiots.


The MAGA rethuglicans may be delusional, but they are effective, particularly if they manage to engineer a shutdown. Ditto Tuberville: one openly racist MAGA nut can singlehandedly freeze all promotions and impact military readiness. Expect more small-dick energy from the MAGA wing of the party if Trump is re-elected.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 08:27     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:Latest on the shutdown via WP...

Hard-liners plot to replace McCarthy with a deputy as shutdown looms

A contingent of far-right House Republicans are plotting an attempt to remove Kevin McCarthy as House speaker as early as next week, a move that would throw the chamber into further disarray in the middle of a potential government shutdown, according to four people familiar with the effort who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.

Some members of the far-right faction of the party are coalescing around nominating a member of McCarthy’s leadership team, Rep. Tom Emmer (Minn.), to be the next speaker if they can successfully oust McCarthy, according to those people. The members think Emmer is more attuned to their concerns and will better deliver conservative results.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/28/kevin-mccarthy-tom-emmer-government-shutdown-motion-vacate/


They are delusional idiots.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 08:25     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Non-starter.

The senate has already passed a bill. The pressure will be n McCarthy to accept it or take the blame for the Shutdown.

Very binary choice here.

If he accepts it he'll be ousted as Speaker. The question is...does McCarthy care more about himself or the country? I'm not optimistic here.


McCarthy really has no choice but to eventually call their bluff. They don’t have realistic demands. They aren’t negotiating, they just really like holding hostages. They won’t even compromise enough to pass a dead end bill in the Republican House. Meanwhile, the Senate bill would pass the House easily on a bipartisan vote if McCarthy allows a vote. The only question is how long it takes until McCarthy allows that vote.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 08:16     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Latest on the shutdown via WP...

Hard-liners plot to replace McCarthy with a deputy as shutdown looms

A contingent of far-right House Republicans are plotting an attempt to remove Kevin McCarthy as House speaker as early as next week, a move that would throw the chamber into further disarray in the middle of a potential government shutdown, according to four people familiar with the effort who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private talks.

Some members of the far-right faction of the party are coalescing around nominating a member of McCarthy’s leadership team, Rep. Tom Emmer (Minn.), to be the next speaker if they can successfully oust McCarthy, according to those people. The members think Emmer is more attuned to their concerns and will better deliver conservative results.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/09/28/kevin-mccarthy-tom-emmer-government-shutdown-motion-vacate/
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 07:19     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:Non-starter.

The senate has already passed a bill. The pressure will be n McCarthy to accept it or take the blame for the Shutdown.

Very binary choice here.

If he accepts it he'll be ousted as Speaker. The question is...does McCarthy care more about himself or the country? I'm not optimistic here.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 07:01     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Non-starter.

The senate has already passed a bill. The pressure will be n McCarthy to accept it or take the blame for the Shutdown.

Very binary choice here.
Anonymous
Post 09/29/2023 02:13     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 23:23     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Anonymous wrote:more...


Summer Lee for President!
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 21:35     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Money for me but not for thee
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 19:12     Subject: how likely is a shutdown?

Gotta love that Summer Lee!! She don't pull no punches!!
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 19:10     Subject: Re:how likely is a shutdown?

Shutdown,
They call it a shutdown.
Gotta shut it down,
Shut it down and shut it down very strongly.

Shut it down very strongly.
Because if we don’t,
We’re gonna end up in World War Two.
We’re gonna end up in World War Two.

And that would be very sad,
Very sad and very bad.