Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:49     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.

Exactly. Libs need to acknowledge it’s 2023. What is their end goal of CRT? Division, not unity.


This isn't "libs" whining - it's a (newly) right wing college being unable to find professors to teach its classes. I think that's a case of hoist on your own petard - "libs" have nothing to do with it. Is this the outcome you hoped for - a right wing college, where no one wants to teach?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:48     Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Social justice is not nonsense. This country was built on that ideal.


Have you taken any classes on US history? The country was built on the idea that planters and merchants didn't like paying taxes
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:41     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.

Exactly. Libs need to acknowledge it’s 2023. What is their end goal of CRT? Division, not unity.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:36     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?


^ Oh, and a system led by political cronies with no qualifications, to boot. It just isn't a serious system.


Excellent point, PP! Where are the legions of right-leaning professors who have been so suppressed in "liberal" colleges? They should be practically knocking down the doors of New College. Could it possibly be that New College doesn't have the prestige or credibility they would like in their academic careers?


It used to! Till DeStupid and his boyzzz decided to burn the whole thing down.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:14     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?


^ Oh, and a system led by political cronies with no qualifications, to boot. It just isn't a serious system.


Excellent point, PP! Where are the legions of right-leaning professors who have been so suppressed in "liberal" colleges? They should be practically knocking down the doors of New College. Could it possibly be that New College doesn't have the prestige or credibility they would like in their academic careers?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:12     Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Seems like the New College is having problems getting any cookies.

That’s how it crumbles when you can’t get the butter and the flour to come work for you.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:08     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?


^ Oh, and a system led by political cronies with no qualifications, to boot. It just isn't a serious system.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:08     Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Seems like the New College is having problems getting any cookies.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:08     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Heh well that's one read of the situation I guess? The other is that DeSantis has enacted an arbitrary, punitive, nasty educational system - one that is also taking away tenure! - and people with options aren't going to submit to that. Why would they?

For years the right has told us that there are LOTS of right wingers who'd love the freedom to be out and proud in a college setting - why aren't they applying to teach at New College, either?
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:07     Subject: Re:professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.


Social justice is not nonsense. This country was built on that ideal.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 10:00     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
The Left is whining because ONE state’s colleges won’t submit to their social justice nonsense. They are like a little kid pouting because he can’t have ALL the cookies.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2023 09:34     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
https://www.axios.com/local/tampa-bay/2023/07/26/new-college-florida-2-million-cancel-culture-center

New College, which is asking the state for $2 million for a center for cancel culture, can't find professors who want jobs there anymore


Meanwhile, college officials are working to fill 36 open faculty positions in time for the fall semester that begins Aug. 28, the News Service of Florida reported. The vacancies account for about a third of the college's full-time faculty members, which provost Brad Thiessen said at a separate board meeting this month was a "ridiculously high" level of turnover.

Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 10:46     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything will be just fine. Good that bad professors are getting out. Florida doesn’t want them. Plenty of others keep coming!


+1


Are they going to keep coming when they find out that the FL board of education is now requiring schools to teach that slavery had some benefits for the enslaved?

"Students at Florida public schools will now learn that Black people benefitted from slavery because it taught them skills. This change is part of the African American history standards the State Board of Education approved at a Wednesday meeting."
https://floridaphoenix.com/2023/07/19/do-not-for-the-love-of-god-tell-kids-that-slavery-was-beneficial/?lctg=136252390

And, if that doesn't dissuade them, are they going to keep coming when they are priced out of home ownership because they can't afford home insurance--or can't even get insurance, which is a requirement for getting a mortgage?

Florida rocked by home insurance crisis: 'I may have to sell up and move'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/15/florida-hurricane-insurance-crisis-climate

This is a great example of the actual grooming white supremacists are doing. Once people are taught garbage like this, it is very hard to unstick this kind of thinking. Azie Dungey’s Ask a Slave series on YouTube showed just how sticky it is.
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 10:23     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything will be just fine. Good that bad professors are getting out. Florida doesn’t want them. Plenty of others keep coming!


That’s not what the hiring officials at these universities are saying upthread. It looks like a lot of temporary gap-filled positions are occurring this academic year. I wonder if they will have to resort to the same level of professionals used for their K-12 schools in Florida. Remember to become a public school teacher in Florida now, all you need is be a veteran of the US armed forces. No college or educational skills required. They just want you to fill a spot and teach by state sponsored PowerPoint.

You can also be the spouse of a veteran with no other qualifications.


https://nbc-2.com/news/politics/2022/07/29/veterans-could-start-teaching-in-florida-schools-under-governors-new-plan/amp/
Anonymous
Post 07/20/2023 09:35     Subject: professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everything will be just fine. Good that bad professors are getting out. Florida doesn’t want them. Plenty of others keep coming!


+1


Are they going to keep coming when they find out that the FL board of education is now requiring schools to teach that slavery had some benefits for the enslaved?

"Students at Florida public schools will now learn that Black people benefitted from slavery because it taught them skills. This change is part of the African American history standards the State Board of Education approved at a Wednesday meeting."
https://floridaphoenix.com/2023/07/19/do-not-for-the-love-of-god-tell-kids-that-slavery-was-beneficial/?lctg=136252390

And, if that doesn't dissuade them, are they going to keep coming when they are priced out of home ownership because they can't afford home insurance--or can't even get insurance, which is a requirement for getting a mortgage?

Florida rocked by home insurance crisis: 'I may have to sell up and move'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jul/15/florida-hurricane-insurance-crisis-climate