Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:41     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Again, club rank does not matter if the team is ranked above 20-25. Its the top 25 and the rest from college coach perspectives. They care about talent and respectable clubs with Directors, staff and coaches that are well respected.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:27     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Cap Orange played great down the stretch. The 77 ranking likely to improve too
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:23     Subject: Capitol tryouts
The talent difference between a 59th ranked team and a 77th ranked team is nothing and literally means nothing to college coaches. Either could beat the other on any given day.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:08     Subject: Capitol tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:"Orange gets attention from the schools that align with the players." Is this poster saying they would get attention from different schools if they were on Blue or it does not matter which team you on? In the end it is still better to be on an A team at STJ Stars. STJ MC Elite, or Pride.


If and only if those clubs teams are playing in higher brackets than orange which none of them are except Pride


My guess would be that Orange, Stars and Pride would play in similar brackets and guessing that they will perform in that same order.


For 2026, CLC Orange is ranked 56 and Pride Black is 100.


For 2025, CLC Orange is ranked below Pride at 77, and Pride is ranked 59.


For people who don't understand, college coaches dont care what rank a team is - or that Pride black is an A team and Capital Orange is a B team. The brand of the club and the individual talent is what gets a girl recruited

If the team is <20 and between 20 and 100 it just doesn't matter. They are looking at individuals not teams UNLESS, everyone on the team is top notch, and in that case, the team is ranked higher than 20. Girls get recruited all the time to great D1 teams from clubs with poor rankings. It.doesnt.matter. (been through recruiting so I know)
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:07     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Great post! Big number of coaches watched the Cap Orange 25 team at the G8 tournament which Pride was not invited to. Funny to see Pride’s A team try to keep up with 25 Orange.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2023 22:01     Subject: Capitol tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:Pride A is a better option than Capital B team. College coaches don’t want B level players.

That’s so not true. Capital B has better connections and better recruiting staff.


Fwiw, with the exception of 1 tournament his summer (where they were in the same bracket), the Pride 25s played in higher brackets than Capital Orange.


This is not true. Pride and Capital only play two of the same tournaments. One they played in the same bracket and the other pride played one bracket above and didn't fair well (the were originally slotted to play in the same bracket as orange and the two teams were supposed to play again, but katie moved their bracket so they didn't have to risk loosing to a B team). Orange plays in two invitational tournaments where there is heavy recruiting and Pride is not invited to attend so there is no comparing which level brackets they played in in those two tournaments. Finally, organge plays in a 5th tournament to maximize recruiting opportunity and pride does not. One of the tournaments pride plays in that orange does not attracts only B level college coaches.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 23:55     Subject: Capitol tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:"Culture matters and Capital has a strong culture. The girls like each other. They understand they are there to support each other. During Orange 2024's most recent run, the girls and coaches focused their efforts on showcasing uncommitted teammates. The parents socialize together and like each other. The cross-selling of coaching and training can become costly and feels a little annoying, but is not necessary to participate in those. Finally, from this board one can discern that there are folks that have left the club or feel burned by it is some other way. I don't know or deny their experiences. It was not ours."

My DD did not tryout for CLC because she heard from current CLC players that are on her high school team that they didn't like the culture on their respective Capital teams.


I've met enough douchey Capital parents to steer clear of there.


That’s really too bad. Our CLC experience has been awesome - really nice girls and parents. We look forward to traveling with the team each season!
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 20:54     Subject: Capitol tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:That's actually not true. No parents were emphatic. It was obvious there were risks. The girls decided they really wanted to stay together, and the parents supported the decision. Naive maybe, but emphatic, no. With the proper management, could have been great, but their ineptitude and lack of caring was greatly underestimated.


Neutral party here. It makes me genuinely happy that there are girls out there that value friendships more than lacrosse glory and the opinions of others. It probably cost the parents a bit in lost scholarship money, but the life lessons learned were probably more valuable.


Enough on the 23's!!! From a certain point of view, sure, the Pride 23's stayed together for friendship, but a more likely point of view was a few parents of Pride 23 players (that did not get their way with Capital leading up to try-outs) coerced the group into thinking there was a benefit to staying together, but were primarily thinking about the benefit of their daughters in recruiting by keeping the Pride 23 team together. And, let's also remember that KM forced 14 year old girls to decide to stay with Pride 23 for high school by locking them into agreements before the Capital try-outs that year.


Yes. Understood girls (parents) were terrified to leave because they would lose their spot on the team and many knew they would not get a CLC B spot.

Like recent years past a good number of Pride players would have made the CLC Blue team that year. That 2023 class was loaded. Combine the top 10 from CLC Blue with the top 10 from Pride Black and there is a good chance that team would have been top 5, maybe even #1 in that class. The accolades players on those two teams have racked up this year is impressive.



Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 17:24     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:That's actually not true. No parents were emphatic. It was obvious there were risks. The girls decided they really wanted to stay together, and the parents supported the decision. Naive maybe, but emphatic, no. With the proper management, could have been great, but their ineptitude and lack of caring was greatly underestimated.


Neutral party here. It makes me genuinely happy that there are girls out there that value friendships more than lacrosse glory and the opinions of others. It probably cost the parents a bit in lost scholarship money, but the life lessons learned were probably more valuable.


Enough on the 23's!!! From a certain point of view, sure, the Pride 23's stayed together for friendship, but a more likely point of view was a few parents of Pride 23 players (that did not get their way with Capital leading up to try-outs) coerced the group into thinking there was a benefit to staying together, but were primarily thinking about the benefit of their daughters in recruiting by keeping the Pride 23 team together. And, let's also remember that KM forced 14 year old girls to decide to stay with Pride 23 for high school by locking them into agreements before the Capital try-outs that year.


Yes. Understood girls (parents) were terrified to leave because they would lose their spot on the team and many knew they would not get a CLC B spot.



Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 17:16     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Anonymous wrote:"Culture matters and Capital has a strong culture. The girls like each other. They understand they are there to support each other. During Orange 2024's most recent run, the girls and coaches focused their efforts on showcasing uncommitted teammates. The parents socialize together and like each other. The cross-selling of coaching and training can become costly and feels a little annoying, but is not necessary to participate in those. Finally, from this board one can discern that there are folks that have left the club or feel burned by it is some other way. I don't know or deny their experiences. It was not ours."

My DD did not tryout for CLC because she heard from current CLC players that are on her high school team that they didn't like the culture on their respective Capital teams.


I've met enough douchey Capital parents to steer clear of there.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 17:15     Subject: Capitol tryouts
"Culture matters and Capital has a strong culture. The girls like each other. They understand they are there to support each other. During Orange 2024's most recent run, the girls and coaches focused their efforts on showcasing uncommitted teammates. The parents socialize together and like each other. The cross-selling of coaching and training can become costly and feels a little annoying, but is not necessary to participate in those. Finally, from this board one can discern that there are folks that have left the club or feel burned by it is some other way. I don't know or deny their experiences. It was not ours."

My DD did not tryout for CLC because she heard from current CLC players that are on her high school team that they didn't like the culture on their respective Capital teams.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 17:11     Subject: Capitol tryouts
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Anonymous wrote:The relationship between Stars and Capital proved to be a very strong one this year. The middle school move now is to play for Stars so you’re in the Capital pipeline. This is evidenced by the large number of Stars girls put on both Blue and Orange teams this year. Pride had a much better team with much better players, yet far fewer girls were selected. Unfortunately, we’re in D.C., and politics is everywhere including middle school lacrosse.



Here we go again... Not sure the statistics bear this out. It looks like there was a pretty good BLC "pipeline" just based not he quality of the team, and Pride did fine in the number of Capital offers, just as they did the year before and the year before that. Even if there was a slight boost for playing with Stars, you are still choosing to play for a much lower ranked team in much lower brackets, against much lower ranked competition. Not sure that's worth the development hit for most players.


Stars 27 was a fairly weak team. I tend to agree with the original comment. If there’s a decent chance your daughter could make one of the two Capital teams, it seems like moving to Stars makes sense. If your daughter is very good or towards the bottom, you’re probably better off staying where she’s happy. The very top players will make it regardless and the weakest players will not whether they are on Stars or not. It’s the middle of the pack that would benefit from the Stars boost.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 16:57     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:"Orange gets attention from the schools that align with the players." Is this poster saying they would get attention from different schools if they were on Blue or it does not matter which team you on? In the end it is still better to be on an A team at STJ Stars. STJ MC Elite, or Pride.


If and only if those clubs teams are playing in higher brackets than orange which none of them are except Pride


My guess would be that Orange, Stars and Pride would play in similar brackets and guessing that they will perform in that same order.


For 2026, CLC Orange is ranked 56 and Pride Black is 100.


That will change more than likely. Pride Black looks like they picked up a lot of talent.


Pride Black 2027, right? Good news.


And the 2026 team.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 15:51     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Anonymous wrote:The relationship between Stars and Capital proved to be a very strong one this year. The middle school move now is to play for Stars so you’re in the Capital pipeline. This is evidenced by the large number of Stars girls put on both Blue and Orange teams this year. Pride had a much better team with much better players, yet far fewer girls were selected. Unfortunately, we’re in D.C., and politics is everywhere including middle school lacrosse.



Here we go again... Not sure the statistics bear this out. It looks like there was a pretty good BLC "pipeline" just based not he quality of the team, and Pride did fine in the number of Capital offers, just as they did the year before and the year before that. Even if there was a slight boost for playing with Stars, you are still choosing to play for a much lower ranked team in much lower brackets, against much lower ranked competition. Not sure that's worth the development hit for most players.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2023 15:50     Subject: Capitol tryouts
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:"Orange gets attention from the schools that align with the players." Is this poster saying they would get attention from different schools if they were on Blue or it does not matter which team you on? In the end it is still better to be on an A team at STJ Stars. STJ MC Elite, or Pride.


If and only if those clubs teams are playing in higher brackets than orange which none of them are except Pride


My guess would be that Orange, Stars and Pride would play in similar brackets and guessing that they will perform in that same order.


For 2026, CLC Orange is ranked 56 and Pride Black is 100.


That will change more than likely. Pride Black looks like they picked up a lot of talent.


Pride Black 2027, right? Good news.