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Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Shut up. Previous poster said they stopped paying union dues. “So true” spoken like someone who truly has no idea what they are talking about.

Who said they stopped paying dues? And eho said people that left the union should vote?

In the above chain, one teacher said all they can do is leave the union, not that she actually left. And the other poster suggested meeting with the union president.

Regardless, if you agree the union negotiating on your behalf is making you and your profession look bad, why don’t you want to do anything about it?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Shut up. Previous poster said they stopped paying union dues. “So true” spoken like someone who truly has no idea what they are talking about.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

So true. If that many teachers were upset about MCEA or didn’t like what they mostly did, then the simple answer would be to stop paying those Union Dues. Or get together with a bunch of like minded teachers and have a chat with the union president.

MCEA business model is supposed to be about protecting and supporting teachers. If it’s not accomplishing that, then its key stakeholders should make that known.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

So true!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

How ungrateful. This union fought for your salary and your retirement long before you were “forced” to join it and will be fighting long after you’re gone.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.

Sure, it's not about teachers but teachers elect them so it is about teachers. You know what I'm saying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the issues of the MCEA is almost all of their business is not done by vote or conversation with the rank and file teachers.

So you get only the small, political zealots of the group who go to their conference in OC- which becomes an echo chamber of far left ideas- way farther left than most of the actual teachers. It's a real disconnect.

And as saying teachers should "speak out about the MCEA" that would be absolute career suicide. I dont blame or expect them to do that.

MCEA isn't about teachers. Its a business and its looking after their interests not their forced due's paying members.

I think this is the most accurate response. I personally don't feel scared, I know just my voice won't do anything. Now, if you convince 14,000 others to do the same, then we are talking. But I'm not going to speak out against MCEA - that's not my battle to fight. I don't care enough about them. I won't vote, I won't attend meetings, they can F right off. I have tried calling them for help for myself and with my own child when he wasn't getting services, and they blew me off. I KNOW they do not look after us.

But I absolutely LOVE it when people in the community all gang up on teachers though! It's super cute and fun. We didn't start MCEA, it was here before us. All I can do is leave the union. I just want to teach - not deal with political bs. We had no idea they would even be at the county council meeting. Take what you will with that...but think before you pop off here about how it's all my fault I don't speak up- don't lump all of us together. MCEA is a separate entity from the bulk of teachers AND they 100% act like it.