Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I mean, this is very obvious. In the 21st century it is not the priority of top Ivy League colleges to open the doors to graduates of rich and fancy prep schools. Their priorities are elsewhere. Anyone who thinks that sending their kid to a big three gives them an edge is about two decades behind the Times.
Colleges are a business—now and forever. It is absolutely the priority of highly selective colleges to admit wealthy, well prepared private school students. They will falter if they become a true meritocracy. That’s why need aware has made a resurgence. Full pay is also a hook.
You are clueless. We are talking about Ivy League colleges. They are not need aware. They have more money than God.
“Admitting a high proportion of private school students serves elite universities’ interests. During and after college, graduates from private schools are likely to outperform their public school peers. For example, in 2020, The Daily Princetonian reported, two-thirds of Princeton’s American Rhodes scholars attended private high schools, and the Association of Boarding Schools bragged in 2010 that its alumni are “3,000 percent more likely” to become Rhodes scholars than the average student. Prestigious postgraduate scholarships — or fancy postgraduation jobs — can help make a college more attractive to its deep-pocketed alumni and the next crop of prospective students.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/01/opinion/school-private-college.html
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Whitman (or BCC) did not outperform Maret in college admissions this year, or any year in recent memory.
Comparing a private school class of 80 to a public school of 600 is ridiculous. Public schools don't select their students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Whitman (or BCC) did not outperform Maret in college admissions this year, or any year in recent memory.
Comparing a private school class of 80 to a public school of 600 is ridiculous. Public schools don't select their students.
That’s such a tired excuse. Aren’t you all the same people who say lifers are dumb?
That's a fact, duh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Whitman (or BCC) did not outperform Maret in college admissions this year, or any year in recent memory.
Comparing a private school class of 80 to a public school of 600 is ridiculous. Public schools don't select their students.
That’s such a tired excuse. Aren’t you all the same people who say lifers are dumb?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Whitman (or BCC) did not outperform Maret in college admissions this year, or any year in recent memory.
Comparing a private school class of 80 to a public school of 600 is ridiculous. Public schools don't select their students.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Whitman (or BCC) did not outperform Maret in college admissions this year, or any year in recent memory.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
This is such baloney! My kid goes to BCC and they have incredible results this year. Of course not everyone posted but I work in administration and they have an off-the-charts year and my colleges at Whitman report the same. Taking a look at private instagram pages, all I can say is same-same. You probably don't have all the kids posting and certainly my daughter and friends don't post. Neither to many of the URM who have independently have had a stellar year. Same with D1 recruits and crew too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maret is cleaning up this year, and did well last year. Someone in the admissions office deserves a raise.
They did well the year before last too (2021)
Oxford
Yale
MIT
Stanford
Cornell
Harvard (2)
Chicago
Michigan
Pomona
Brown (2)
Williams
Dartmouth
Georgetown
+more top LACs
https://instagram.com/maretfrogs2021?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I think Sidwell did a little better. I know they’re sending more students to Ivies (plus one to MIT).
This post was so unnecessary. I was pointing out to the PP that it’s not just this year and last year that Maret has done quite wells but the year before as well.
Also good to note that Maret has 75-85 graduates each year.
But this year (2023)
Maret has
Harvard - 2
Penn - 6
Yale - 3
Brown -1
Cornell - 1
Not all have posted individually on the IG but some did a video on college gear day. This year is 85 kids so 15% Ivy.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Crt-iE3PEUh/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Yes but similar to kids at Whitman less 2 ivys …for free!
Whitman has about 600 graduating seniors…Maret has 80. Maret is still sending more students to Ivies and top 50 schools.
Free? It looks like you get what you pay for.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s perfectly possible for a private school to deflate in general and provide targeted inflation for donor kids.
Could you explain this? How did they do this? I think this might be true.
I'm not PP but one way this can happen (not via teacher grading) is for some families to know which courses to take that will best support high GPA. For example, if you know you have a hook, you may not need to take the most rigorous courses - easier courseload leads to higher GPA. The hard part of this equation, though, is it doesn't apply for a non-hooked kid. They take harder courseload and have a high GPA (with maybe a few extra A- vs A) but are shut out of T20. But they can't assume they'd do better in T20 if they took the easier courseload with a 4.0 outcome - because they probably would not. Suppose they were accepted to a T40 with the higher courseload - that may not have happened if they took the easier route.
Oh my. I pay way to much to have to game the system for my non hooked kids. I thought sending him to a private will be the hook. He is not a sport kid. Well he is but not good enough to make a team beyond Freshman year. And he is ok in academics but not a natural super star. I was hoping he can get into a top 40 from my fancy school. Is this to hopeful? I am assuming he'll have A's and A's with a sprinkle of a B here or there if they really won't grade inflate. What can I do to help him stand out? He likes clubs but isn't the kids to "lead" or get elected. Help from unhooked. What do you recommend?
Personally I think private is a much better bet for the average kid. You’re almost certainly going to get into a top 50 if you’re average at a top private school.
That's not true this year. Especially for boys looking to study engineering, CS. Even super strong students landed outside of top 50.
Which schools are you referring to? I am referring to top privates in the country.
No school in this area is one of the “top privates in the country.”
Sidwell, STA, NCS, and GDS are definitely considered top privates nationally. All of these schools regularly appear on “Best private schools in the US” lists. These schools pretty much makes every top 25 to 50 list of best private schools in the country (out of tens of thousands of private schools).
I’d love to see that source.
I can only find this one that has NCS, Potomac, Maret, then Sidwell (in that order). No GDS and no STA. We need to stop with the Big 3 rhetoric.
https://thebestschools.org/rankings/k-12/best-private-schools/
Oh come on. Let’s not be disingenuous here. I can find many lists. Niche has one. I see gds at 30th place.
Business insider has another. sTA is 43rd nationally on that one. We can go on.
https://www.businessinsider.com/best-private-high-schools-in-america-2016-3#43-st-albans-school-8
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s perfectly possible for a private school to deflate in general and provide targeted inflation for donor kids.
Could you explain this? How did they do this? I think this might be true.
I'm not PP but one way this can happen (not via teacher grading) is for some families to know which courses to take that will best support high GPA. For example, if you know you have a hook, you may not need to take the most rigorous courses - easier courseload leads to higher GPA. The hard part of this equation, though, is it doesn't apply for a non-hooked kid. They take harder courseload and have a high GPA (with maybe a few extra A- vs A) but are shut out of T20. But they can't assume they'd do better in T20 if they took the easier courseload with a 4.0 outcome - because they probably would not. Suppose they were accepted to a T40 with the higher courseload - that may not have happened if they took the easier route.
Oh my. I pay way to much to have to game the system for my non hooked kids. I thought sending him to a private will be the hook. He is not a sport kid. Well he is but not good enough to make a team beyond Freshman year. And he is ok in academics but not a natural super star. I was hoping he can get into a top 40 from my fancy school. Is this to hopeful? I am assuming he'll have A's and A's with a sprinkle of a B here or there if they really won't grade inflate. What can I do to help him stand out? He likes clubs but isn't the kids to "lead" or get elected. Help from unhooked. What do you recommend?
Personally I think private is a much better bet for the average kid. You’re almost certainly going to get into a top 50 if you’re average at a top private school.
That's not true this year. Especially for boys looking to study engineering, CS. Even super strong students landed outside of top 50.
Which schools are you referring to? I am referring to top privates in the country.
No school in this area is one of the “top privates in the country.”
Sidwell, STA, NCS, and GDS are definitely considered top privates nationally. All of these schools regularly appear on “Best private schools in the US” lists. These schools pretty much makes every top 25 to 50 list of best private schools in the country (out of tens of thousands of private schools).
I’d love to see that source.
I can only find this one that has NCS, Potomac, Maret, then Sidwell (in that order). No GDS and no STA. We need to stop with the Big 3 rhetoric.
https://thebestschools.org/rankings/k-12/best-private-schools/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s perfectly possible for a private school to deflate in general and provide targeted inflation for donor kids.
Could you explain this? How did they do this? I think this might be true.
I'm not PP but one way this can happen (not via teacher grading) is for some families to know which courses to take that will best support high GPA. For example, if you know you have a hook, you may not need to take the most rigorous courses - easier courseload leads to higher GPA. The hard part of this equation, though, is it doesn't apply for a non-hooked kid. They take harder courseload and have a high GPA (with maybe a few extra A- vs A) but are shut out of T20. But they can't assume they'd do better in T20 if they took the easier courseload with a 4.0 outcome - because they probably would not. Suppose they were accepted to a T40 with the higher courseload - that may not have happened if they took the easier route.
Oh my. I pay way to much to have to game the system for my non hooked kids. I thought sending him to a private will be the hook. He is not a sport kid. Well he is but not good enough to make a team beyond Freshman year. And he is ok in academics but not a natural super star. I was hoping he can get into a top 40 from my fancy school. Is this to hopeful? I am assuming he'll have A's and A's with a sprinkle of a B here or there if they really won't grade inflate. What can I do to help him stand out? He likes clubs but isn't the kids to "lead" or get elected. Help from unhooked. What do you recommend?
Personally I think private is a much better bet for the average kid. You’re almost certainly going to get into a top 50 if you’re average at a top private school.
That's not true this year. Especially for boys looking to study engineering, CS. Even super strong students landed outside of top 50.
Which schools are you referring to? I am referring to top privates in the country.
No school in this area is one of the “top privates in the country.”
Sidwell, STA, NCS, and GDS are definitely considered top privates nationally. All of these schools regularly appear on “Best private schools in the US” lists. These schools pretty much makes every top 25 to 50 list of best private schools in the country (out of tens of thousands of private schools).
I’d love to see that source.
I can only find this one that has NCS, Potomac, Maret, then Sidwell (in that order). No GDS and no STA. We need to stop with the Big 3 rhetoric.
https://thebestschools.org/rankings/k-12/best-private-schools/