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Anonymous wrote:Basis is impressive

Would expect nothing less from the best private in Virginia.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

That’s like saying there’s no difference in cachet or prestige between Harvard and Cornell. They are both great, highly selective universities, but no one doubts that Harvard is far more prestigious than Cornell. Both degrees will open doors, but Harvard is universally recognized as “better” than Cornell. Life and career outcomes will probably not vary much, but let’s not pretend that the perception of these two fine institutions has “converge[ed] as more people realize that they both “yield the same results.”

I personally couldn’t care less about Sidwell, GDS, Whitman, Jackson Reed. Where you go to high school is a factor of your parents rather than anything you have done. This is true for college as well but to a lesser extent

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

That’s like saying there’s no difference in cachet or prestige between Harvard and Cornell. They are both great, highly selective universities, but no one doubts that Harvard is far more prestigious than Cornell. Both degrees will open doors, but Harvard is universally recognized as “better” than Cornell. Life and career outcomes will probably not vary much, but let’s not pretend that the perception of these two fine institutions has “converge[ed] as more people realize that they both “yield the same results.”

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

Many people care, that’s why we’re having this discussion. Some graduates from lesser regarded high schools have/do/will end up in the same colleges as Big 3 grads. The perception that there is a firm division in quality among these schools has never/will never change. The cachet will not disappear. The US socioeconomic system is hierarchical by nature. There will always be a formal or informal ranking system.

There is nothing new under the sun.

The question is whether it makes a substantive difference if college admissions are similar even if the perception of quality is different.

There is a substantive difference in that the Big 3 send more students (percentage) to highly selective schools than the 2nd and 3rd tier high schools.

I respectfully disagree. I hardly see any differences between Sidwell/GDS to Maret, Potomac, Holton. STA maybe, but that is more of a testament of legacies.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

Many people care, that’s why we’re having this discussion. Some graduates from lesser regarded high schools have/do/will end up in the same colleges as Big 3 grads. The perception that there is a firm division in quality among these schools has never/will never change. The cachet will not disappear. The US socioeconomic system is hierarchical by nature. There will always be a formal or informal ranking system.

There is nothing new under the sun.

The question is whether it makes a substantive difference if college admissions are similar even if the perception of quality is different.

There is a substantive difference in that the Big 3 send more students (percentage) to highly selective schools than the 2nd and 3rd tier high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

Many people care, that’s why we’re having this discussion. Some graduates from lesser regarded high schools have/do/will end up in the same colleges as Big 3 grads. The perception that there is a firm division in quality among these schools has never/will never change. The cachet will not disappear. The US socioeconomic system is hierarchical by nature. There will always be a formal or informal ranking system.

There is nothing new under the sun.

The question is whether it makes a substantive difference if college admissions are similar even if the perception of quality is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

I moved to DC a few years ago and think people here misunderstand the cachet of Big 3 DC area schools. Some outsiders have heard of Sidwell because of the Obama kids and Chelsea Clinton but none of these schools have real non-regional cachet outside of some old school AOs. We are not talking about Exeter and Andover here reputation wise. If anything, people have heard of Georgetown Prep more recently because there were stories about how crazy it is to have 2 SCOTUS justices from a high school of that size.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

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Anonymous wrote:Basis is impressive

What is so impressive? I only saw 3 Ivies among the Basis grads (one of which is Cornell).

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

Many people care, that’s why we’re having this discussion. Some graduates from lesser regarded high schools have/do/will end up in the same colleges as Big 3 grads. The perception that there is a firm division in quality among these schools has never/will never change. The cachet will not disappear. The US socioeconomic system is hierarchical by nature. There will always be a formal or informal ranking system.

There is nothing new under the sun.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

So what?? Who care about cachet if they all end up in the same colleges?? Eventually, the perception will converge as more people realize that the "big 3" yield the same results as the non-big 3. And the cachet will disappear.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?

Perhaps, but those schools don’t have the cachet of the Big 3 DC schools. Most people will ask where’s Potomac? Why is it in VA? What’s a Bullis? Never heard of it.

Let’s be honest, when people hear that you graduated from Sidwell/NCS/STA (and maybe GDS) they think “rich and smart.” Many people think “rich and dumb” when they hear Bullis. I’m not saying it’s true…it’s more perception.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really think going to a "Big3" guarantees admission to a t25 college or university?

I mean, maybe Andover 20 years ago, but at this point, and particularly post COVD, it simply isn't possible.

Add to it, a lot of kids want a different collegiate experience from their "big3" type high school experience. That is why you see a lot of schools like Clemson, Boulder, Pitt etc on the matriculation lists.

Doesn’t matter where you go when you’re rich, connected, and have an elite private k-12 education. Clemson and Michigan aren’t the same experience for these kids. The big 3 kid gets into an elite sorority or fraternity proles can’t get into, only mixes with rich peers, cruises to graduation with a 3.9 gpa, and lands a cushy six figure job with a rich connection (if they don’t go to med or law school).

Isn’t the same true for kids that go to Potomac, Bullis, and the 2nd tier schools that cost 50,000 per year?