Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/patrickruffini/status/1873431971503956334?s=46

Big time Republican pollster

“ It wasn’t just minorities who won Trump the election, but ethnic voters of all stripes: Italians, Irish, Eastern Europeans, Arabs, Iranians, Armenians, French, and more.

If the trends nationwide were similar to those of Northern European stock, Harris wins.”

Which is fascinating because MAGA idolizes Northern European stock. It’s the purity that the despicable white nationalists want so badly.

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Anonymous wrote:Are Midwestern Americans of Scandinavian descent the same type of White as Yankee WASPs? I can’t keep up with all the categorizing here.

No, they arent.

WASPs are a rapidly declining share of the population. I’m not sure that this demographic has much clout outside of New England anymore.

Anonymous wrote:Are Midwestern Americans of Scandinavian descent the same type of White as Yankee WASPs? I can’t keep up with all the categorizing here.

No, they arent.

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Anonymous wrote:Every single white person I know claims that their family came from the Mayflower and they have some fake family tree to prove it. My Japanese grandmother came on the Mayflower too.

I'm one of these "ethnic whites" but I'll never admit it in real life. I cant stand these "Im not a regular white person, my family is really Irish" people. No, fool, drinking beer and liking green things isnt your ethnicity and youve never been to the UK.

LOL love this

Anonymous wrote:“White ethnics”? Keep on sorting people into those identity boxes, Democrats. Never change.

They mean people who are caucasian but speak a language other than english. It's most definitely a different identity box, not just a political construct. They largely socialize in ethic groups where they speak their home language and don't really assimilate. You just haven't noticed them because they don't talk to you and they look white.

They are the intelligent ones, in case you hadn’t noticed.

Why are you even bothering to discuss "white ethnics" and WASP/Mayflower types? They are losing political power on the daily to hispanics. Not as much as African Americans but still pretty obvious.

I married into an old money family who has always been Republican but are not MAGAs or Trump supporters. My FIL had some dealings with Trump that went sour, so he's not been a fan for decades.

My ILs very much miss the old Republican party and cannot stand the current popular players like Rubio, Cruz, and MTG. And don't even get him started on Musk or Rama-lama-ding-dong as he calls Ramaswamy.

Several of my ILs voted for Harris this last election cycle. Others abstained from voting for a presidential pick.

What I find interesting is that many in their circle, who are also Republicans, have more left-leaning views on things like abortion, birth control, immigration, etc.

“White ethnics”? Keep on sorting people into those identity boxes, Democrats. Never change.

Anonymous wrote:Side question: What's the consensus on blacks who descended from slaves? Are they more "fill in the blank" than blacks that immigrated?

Blacks who immigrated from Africa (not carribean) are more conservative and GOP supporting. Old school Jack and Jill types are also more rockefeller republicans. African American whove been going to college for several generations or just lived NORTH or West, long out of the south and/or were financially successful were uniformly Republican until FDR started to appeal to the working class and then both parties started switching constituencies, there are a lot of old money AADS who are still republican in the same way that you have southern democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?

Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.

+1 the WASPY people I knew from Connecticut or the Boston suburbs were more Rockefeller Republicans, Romney-to-Clinton voters. Now voting Biden.

they are establishment voters because they ARE the establishment.

Well, now Musk is jockeying to be the establishment, and he cares even less about American workers. We've now got the Mumps.

https://x.com/patrickruffini/status/1873431971503956334?s=46

Big time Republican pollster

“ It wasn’t just minorities who won Trump the election, but ethnic voters of all stripes: Italians, Irish, Eastern Europeans, Arabs, Iranians, Armenians, French, and more.

If the trends nationwide were similar to those of Northern European stock, Harris wins.”

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Anonymous wrote:Can we stop “othering” people? It’s not a good look no matter who’s doing it.

Don’t be a buzzkill, it’s not a “look” at all

And yet it paved the way for an orange baboon to win the election. Good job

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Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?

Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.

And that's exactly what the GOP has tapped into and promoted - that the "other" is responsible for their miserable lives.

Yes, true. They're angry because someone's "taking," or has already taken, something from them... and they're right, someone has... but it's not blacks, or Mexicans, or drag queens. It's American corporatism (a shout-out to the Kochs!)

The GOP plays these poor donkeys like fiddles. As but one example, they hate(d) the effort of "Obamacare" to deliver universal coverage, but struggle with health bills, go without treatment.... etc. etc. etc.

And another shout out to soros.

Both sides do it. A pox on both their houses

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Anonymous wrote:Within the white population has anyone else noticed that white-ethnics (Italians, polish, Eastern Euro, Irish) seem to be have a higher incidence of maga than mayflower whites/dar eligible types.

Thoughts? Isn’t this the exact opposite of 20-30 years ago?

Very, very, very, very few Mayflower/DAR eligible types are MAGA. They don't have to be.

MAGA is (mostly) for angry, lower middle class white men (not that there's anything wrong with any of those categorizations) who are convinced someone's "taking" something from them.

+1 the WASPY people I knew from Connecticut or the Boston suburbs were more Rockefeller Republicans, Romney-to-Clinton voters. Now voting Biden.

they are establishment voters because they ARE the establishment.