If the only reason you're voting for Erin is that she's the non-APE candidate, can I just point out that their platforms are totally the same?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a current parent at Escuela Key. It is a shame that Erin FS is running. I don't know anyone who likes her outside of the executive PTA committee and maybe the teachers because she is the internal affairs PTA person for the school. Miranda has my vote.

Yikes - I completely disagree. As a former key parent (not on the executive committee or anything), I found her to be generally well-liked. This sounds like you have a personal grudge.

There's a lot in just this thread about Erin that makes me worried about her. It's not only this person who has a personal story. They can't all have grudges. I don't know anything about her, never heard of her at all and now she's a SB candidate and taking the spoils. Miranda is more experienced.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

I remember folks in ape were ugly in those early months. But AEM was and still is full of bullies. I stick around for the crazies who never disappoint. Keep showing us who you are.

But most people look back and see how awful that was all around. A lot of people did not rise to the challenge. Some still are not. I’m willing to give MT a chance to make her case.

Does AEM have anyone running for SB? Not sure why they’re relevant here.

Somehow, many of us made it through the pandemic without trashing teachers/staff or screaming over other parents.

But MT was not one of those people. Fine you don’t like APE. Whatever. But seems unfair to
Keep holding her to account for behavior of others.

She was certainly comfortable with that behavior - she still *chose* to work closely with those people for years. At least one helped significantly with her last campaign (and is on her current website). She now says she’s “proud” of that work?

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

I remember folks in ape were ugly in those early months. But AEM was and still is full of bullies. I stick around for the crazies who never disappoint. Keep showing us who you are.

But most people look back and see how awful that was all around. A lot of people did not rise to the challenge. Some still are not. I’m willing to give MT a chance to make her case.

Does AEM have anyone running for SB? Not sure why they’re relevant here.

Somehow, many of us made it through the pandemic without trashing teachers/staff or screaming over other parents.

But MT was not one of those people. Fine you don’t like APE. Whatever. But seems unfair to
Keep holding her to account for behavior of others.

This exactly. Yes, some people in APE were bad, and yes MT has had a leadership role in that organization. But people everywhere behaved badly, and MT was not personally one of them. So I don't get why this push to hold her guilty by association?

And, if you set aside the worst of the COVID times, APE since then has been a great source of information and advocacy, with priorities that are pretty mainstream. MT is a strong candidate and knows a lot about the system and has a record of advocating for these things. That's all a plus for me.

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

APE’s budget analysis and recommendations are great. I think they can win a lot of people with it alone

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of people run once and run again and win. That's what Priddy did. I don't mind people running twice. Audrey Clement is a different matter.

I continue to think Miranda Turner is an excellent candidate, and I agree with PP above saying it's unfair that she is associated with the worst of APE. She has certainly put in the work though to have credible, broad, APS experience. I bet she's done more analysis, attending more school board meetings, and knows more about the system as a whole than any other candidate.

It would actually be brilliant if APE was running several candidates. Since they want to take over APS entirely and impose Youngkin on us.

Priddy only won because Symone Walker was done dirty by another candidate. Erin apparently is a Fed too. It's just a question of when someone will report her too to whatever government authority is in charge of the Hatch Act.

She also aggressively went after anyone who even slightly disagreed with her on that AEM Facebook group, so let’s not pretend like she was guaranteed the nom otherwise. You obviously enjoy making up your own facts anyway.

I can name the posters on AEM who aggressively and rabidly go after people who disagree with them and are still doing it.

The owner of the group also created a fake account back in 2020/2021 and posted under it for months until someone finally called out the fake account on AEM after it was first exposed here.

So to sum up, any single person running for school board that has the backing of people defending AEM are horrible candidates and who associate with nasty self righteous people.

What? You are saying that the founder of AEM created a fake account? This is quite an accusation. Do you have any actual proof of this?

At one point I had a screen shot of the thread from the post on AEM but deleted it bc the entertainment value had wore off

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

I remember folks in ape were ugly in those early months. But AEM was and still is full of bullies. I stick around for the crazies who never disappoint. Keep showing us who you are.

But most people look back and see how awful that was all around. A lot of people did not rise to the challenge. Some still are not. I’m willing to give MT a chance to make her case.

Does AEM have anyone running for SB? Not sure why they’re relevant here.

Somehow, many of us made it through the pandemic without trashing teachers/staff or screaming over other parents.

But MT was not one of those people. Fine you don’t like APE. Whatever. But seems unfair to
Keep holding her to account for behavior of others.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

I remember folks in ape were ugly in those early months. But AEM was and still is full of bullies. I stick around for the crazies who never disappoint. Keep showing us who you are.

But most people look back and see how awful that was all around. A lot of people did not rise to the challenge. Some still are not. I’m willing to give MT a chance to make her case.

Does AEM have anyone running for SB? Not sure why they’re relevant here.

Somehow, many of us made it through the pandemic without trashing teachers/staff or screaming over other parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

Yup. She chooses to associate with them, have them on her campaign and in her APE group, and do her dirty work for her. Pretty conniving.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

I remember folks in ape were ugly in those early months. But AEM was and still is full of bullies. I stick around for the crazies who never disappoint. Keep showing us who you are.

But most people look back and see how awful that was all around. A lot of people did not rise to the challenge. Some still are not. I’m willing to give MT a chance to make her case.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

And yet, she’s the leader of bullies. She’s worked closely with them.

Poor judgment, at best.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

All I know of MT is what I've seen on AEM. Have only ever seen her respectfully engage, answer questions even when people were piling on and ganging up (going so far as to call her racist). Even one of her fiercest detractors on there is now a supporter. Didn't have that on my 2023 bingo card.

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Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

Duh. We are in a much different place than we were in 2021.

They bullied parents/teachers/admin and pushed for things prematurely.

Hard pass on the queen of the bullies.

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.

Except many of us realize they were actually right about a lot of things. Open schools and no masks are not controversial from the viewpoint of 2023, as much as you may wish otherwise.

I still don’t see how Miranda wins the caucus. Even if she’s got vocal supporters, the APE affiliation has cast doubt with too many voters. It’s too fresh in everyone’s memory.