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It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
MPD's hands are tied by the DC Council, which thinks human traffic enforcement is racist and has more or less eliminated any repercussions for traffic violence. But by all means, continue to vote the same people into office and see if it gets better.
Traffic stops done by humans actually are racist (yes, there are data). They are also ineffective.
Egregious traffic violations such as blatant running of a red light should be pulled over for safety. Set up a traffic stop at a site where you stop every single person who rolls through and explain to them why their stop was illegal.
And actually do something about camera violations.
Or else what do you propose for getting crap drivers off the roads? Simple road designs help vut but do not stop bad driving
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
There is nothing you can do to prevent this from happening again, ok. It is absolutely tragic and it's horrible, but pedestrian deaths are a fact of life.
Driving is not taken seriously in this country. People just don't pay attention. But I don't think you or anyone else can change those things.
Here are five things off the top of my head that can be done to reduce pedestrian fatalities:
1) Revise criminal code to make it manslaughter if you kill a pedestrian in a crosswalk and actually prosecute it
2) Daylight every single intersection in the city with bollards- make it so the last one or two parking spaces are taken away and are open to improve nightlines
3) Lobby the federal government to require things like side flaps and better nightlines in vehicles (this is already being done by several advocacy groups)
4) Increase enforcement of things like speeding, running redlights
5) Redesign roads to naturally slow down drivers- bulbouts, speed bumps, chicanes etc
None of these are quick fixes but if people keep lobbying local and federal officials, only voting for council members with records of introducing safe streets legislation etc then they can gradually change.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
MPD's hands are tied by the DC Council, which thinks human traffic enforcement is racist and has more or less eliminated any repercussions for traffic violence. But by all means, continue to vote the same people into office and see if it gets better.
Traffic stops done by humans actually are racist (yes, there are data). They are also ineffective.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
MPD's hands are tied by the DC Council, which thinks human traffic enforcement is racist and has more or less eliminated any repercussions for traffic violence. But by all means, continue to vote the same people into office and see if it gets better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
MPD's hands are tied by the DC Council, which thinks human traffic enforcement is racist and has more or less eliminated any repercussions for traffic violence. But by all means, continue to vote the same people into office and see if it gets better.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
It has definitely gotten worse. Sooner or later, MPD is going to have to do an enforcement blitz and put a lot of drivers in jail. Absent that, the trajectory is terrifying.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
There is nothing you can do to prevent this from happening again, ok. It is absolutely tragic and it's horrible, but pedestrian deaths are a fact of life.
Driving is not taken seriously in this country. People just don't pay attention. But I don't think you or anyone else can change those things.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Have you actually been out there? From what I have seen and experienced lately, drivers in the DC area have gotten a LOT worse, a LOT more aggressive, and a LOT more lawless in the last 3 years.
Anonymous wrote:I live close to an elementary school so there's a ton of kids walking and biking in my neighborhood. One time I was stopped at a stop sign for s group of kids walking with a crossing guard. The guy behind me got impatient and swerved around me on the right to run the stop sign, almost hitting a kid. He didn't stop at all.
In my opinion drivers like that should just have their licenses taken away, first offense. It's only a matter of time before they kill someone.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what actually happened?
It seems like the dad shouldn't have let a small child bike across the crosswalk alone. But is that what happened?
The driver hit the child in a crosswalk and killed her. That's what happened.
Did she dart out on her bike or was she watching for traffic? Where was the dad? The the truck stop at the stop sign?
She was five. There are no circumstances where it's acceptable for a five-year-old to be killed by a driver. Instead of asking whom to blame, please ask how to prevent this from happening to others. What can we do to make streets that are safe for five-year-olds?
You are looking at it backward. Roads ARE dangerous for kids particularly in the city. Parents must therefore exercise high caution for their kids. This is tragic but in my view this kid was not old enough to be biking around on city streets. When my kids started biking we did not let them near the main parkway by us that has sideways yet multiple side streets that must be crossed. That was a later skill we worked on. Not at 5.
Kids should be able to bike and walk where they live. Kids should be able to bike, scoot, and walk across a crosswalk with a stop sign. Kids should not have to only be transported in cars.
This is so weird to me. Kids bike and scoot and walk all over this city. Yes, we can and should make streets safer but we hardly live in a dystopian city with no safe sidewalks or places for kids to play.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is nothing you can do to prevent this from happening again, ok. It is absolutely tragic and it's horrible, but pedestrian deaths are a fact of life.
Driving is not taken seriously in this country. People just don't pay attention. But I don't think you or anyone else can change those things.
Pedestrian deaths are a CHOICE. In the US, we have chosen to have a transportation system that results in an increasing number of pedestrian deaths. We can make different choices.
This has to be one irrational troll poster. No one can be this…clueless.