1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Pomona, Amherst
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) BC, UT Austin, W&M, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Haverford

This is a so perfect. Nice work.

I don't understand the energy directed into this thread. Besides the fact that no ranking means much without a clear methodology, it seems clear what's best for one kid isn't necessarily best for the other.

The student for whom Yale is best is probably not the same as the student for whom Caltech is best. Same for Williams and UCLA, UChicago and Brown, or Harvey Mudd (missing!) and Penn.

Focus on fit. If anything, there should be more lists by type of school, not fewer. All lists have limited utility, super-lists comparing very different schools even more so, and super-lists without methodologies are just distractions from the hard but more relevant work of figuring out what is best for an individual situation.

Anonymous wrote:Remove UIUC entirely, strong in CS, Eng, Ag, Biz but weak everywhere else

UIUC is also strong for Econ for what it's worth.

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Anonymous wrote:Saving this!

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Only list that matters

Criteria?

Remove UIUC entirely, strong in CS, Eng, Ag, Biz but weak everywhere else

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Is Swarthmore really any different than WAP? I think the acronym is WASP for a reason.

Fair, but Williams is likely in a class of its own compared to the others.

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Looks good but is Claremont McKenna really in the same bracket as Rice and Johns Hopkins? Truthfully I know nothing about it, but maybe that's a problem in itself? What are they good at/known for?

Anonymous wrote:Without LACs:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC

Omg this one is fabulous!!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Is Swarthmore really any different than WAP? I think the acronym is WASP for a reason.

Fair, but Williams is likely in a class of its own compared to the others.

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

This has the entire package!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop putting LACs in and go create your own list of LACs. LOLs.

Go get your own thread--we had LACs in here the whole chain.

We gave you 12 spots here for Top 50

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Northwestern, UChicago
2B) Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Cornell

3A) CMU, Emory, USC, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley
3B) NYU, UF, Georgia Tech, Tufts, BC, UTA, BU, Northeasetrn, WF, UMich, UVA, UNC

This is perfection

Anonymous wrote:Saving this!

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Only list that matters

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Is Swarthmore really any different than WAP? I think the acronym is WASP for a reason.

Fair, but Williams is likely in a class of its own compared to the others.

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

That looks really solid

Anonymous wrote:Without LACs:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC

Agreed

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Is Swarthmore really any different than WAP? I think the acronym is WASP for a reason.

Fair, but Williams is likely in a class of its own compared to the others.

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

I think moving Amherst and Pomona down to 2B was the right move. This looks golden.

I don't know don't some places have Amherst or Pomona #1 from time to time. I thought they kind of travel together. All three.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams, Amherst, Pomona
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Swarthmore, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

Is Swarthmore really any different than WAP? I think the acronym is WASP for a reason.

Fair, but Williams is likely in a class of its own compared to the others.

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia

2A) Dartmouth, Northwestern, Brown, UChicago, Cornell, Williams
2B) UMich, Rice, Vanderbilt, Johns Hopkins, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Claremont McKenna

3A) UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech, Wellesley, Barnard, Carleton, Middlebury
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC, W&L, Vassar, Davidson, Hamilton, Haverford

+1

Anonymous wrote:Without LACs:

1A) MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale
1B) Caltech, Duke, Penn, Columbia, Northwestern, UChicago

2A) Johns Hopkins, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell
2B) Berkeley, Rice, Vanderbilt, WashU, Notre Dame, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley

3A) UMich, UVA, UNC, CMU, UF, Emory, USC, Georgia Tech
3B) UCSD, BC, UT Austin, W&M, UIUC

This looks perfect!