Anonymous
06/11/2022 01:32
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another way to ask the question is: is it good for people and children to live under a flight path? Is it the same as not? Who could possibly say yes, and be honest?
Obviously it's terrible, but apparently nobody cares. Would dispersing airline traffic in all directions be better for everyone ultimately as particles won't be concentrated over some areas and not others?
It would be more equitable in one way.
It is not going to happen.
Something happened in 2016, what was it and why? What is the guarantee similar won't happen again? If change happened before, then change can happen again. May make things better for some or worse, you just won't know.
It.
Is.
Not.
Going.
To.
Happen.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 01:28
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another way to ask the question is: is it good for people and children to live under a flight path? Is it the same as not? Who could possibly say yes, and be honest?
Obviously it's terrible, but apparently nobody cares. Would dispersing airline traffic in all directions be better for everyone ultimately as particles won't be concentrated over some areas and not others?
It would be more equitable in one way.
It is not going to happen.
Something happened in 2016, what was it and why? What is the guarantee similar won't happen again? If change happened before, then change can happen again. May make things better for some or worse, you just won't know.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:43
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Another way to ask the question is: is it good for people and children to live under a flight path? Is it the same as not? Who could possibly say yes, and be honest?
Obviously it's terrible, but apparently nobody cares. Would dispersing airline traffic in all directions be better for everyone ultimately as particles won't be concentrated over some areas and not others?
It would be more equitable in one way.
It is not going to happen.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:42
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:For example.
They state that roadway UFPs agglomerate more easily and so might stay in your respiratory tract. Not great. But with jet ones, there’s not time or defenses and so living under a flight path is much much much worse for that reason too. Plus some claim these are so small by the time they get from a jet to one’s airway that they cross bloodstream barrier and even blood brain barrier.
"previous studies suggest smaller pollution particles are more likely to be inhaled and to penetrate the body than larger particles," officials said.
Researchers said other studies have linked the exposure of ultrafine particles to breast cancer, heart disease, prostate cancer and a variety of lung conditions.
You have now typed “prostrate cancer” twice. Take a seat.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:41
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:And I will also say that learned people scoffed at “rumors” of increased incidence of prostrate cancer in firemen. It took a dedicated non-scientist wife to prove it was absolutely true the whole time. Something to do with asbestos in the uniform crotch. Painful to read, right, for a scientist? But totally true. And now accepted as a fact.
Please don’t try to correct a scientist when you don’t know the difference between prostate and prostrate. Thanks.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:39
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:How is this even a question? Excessive noise and air pollution?!!
No thank
You!
So. Don’t. Move. There.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:38
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bloody hell, I bet lack of any understanding of environmental health is why dementia and cancer wards are full and we are hurtling towards a bleak future.
Dementia and cancer wards are full because people are living longer.
Ok, sure. Whatever
Brilliant response. Brilliant.
Anonymous
06/11/2022 00:34
Subject: Re:Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:
Old article, but funny that the ask is for the planes to fly over the river. Which is what they do here.
They don't though, they turn inland over residential areas, even dense ones. They also might fly along the river path inland. If all of them flew over the river it would be impossible to walk around places like Georgetown. When I am there, I hear a few planes over a period of 2-3 hour, they are low, but it's not like there is one after another. The beelines of planes happen over the residential areas where planes go inland to make turns in different location above NOVA neighborhoods and probably same is true for some DC areas as well.
Anonymous
06/10/2022 23:12
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:https://www.iqair.com/us/blog/ultrafine-particles-near-airports-cause-concern
As the try to sell you a filter.
Anonymous
06/10/2022 23:10
Subject: Re:Plane noise
Old article, but funny that the ask is for the planes to fly over the river. Which is what they do here.
Anonymous
06/10/2022 22:51
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:How come DC takes no responsibility? San Diego has a sound insulation program where they’ll install new windows, doors insulation etc for houses affected by the airport.
Includes air filtration due to the pollution and funded by FAA
Just looked at the San Diego program and it only applies to portions of three neighborhoods in a 65+ decibel zone and the house must measure 45+ decibels inside the house. I can tell you that most older homes in San Diego have almost zero insulation and often have louvered windows. They’re one step above a tent. I could see that installing modern insulated windows and doors would make a big difference in most of those houses. I doubt it would make as much difference in houses built for the DC climate.
Anonymous
06/10/2022 22:12
Subject: Re:Plane noise
Anonymous
06/10/2022 22:09
Subject: Re:Plane noise
Anonymous
06/10/2022 20:18
Subject: Plane noise
No, the only answer is silent, battery powered airplanes.
Anonymous
06/10/2022 20:15
Subject: Plane noise
Anonymous wrote:How come DC takes no responsibility? San Diego has a sound insulation program where they’ll install new windows, doors insulation etc for houses affected by the airport.
Includes air filtration due to the pollution and funded by FAA
How will they do this? A lot of flight paths are along residential SFH areas where people use their outdoor space and move there specifically to have access to outdoor space. The only answer to this problem is dispersing the traffic in as many directions as possible to create overall low concentration of particles over any specific areas allowing each area to recover air during breaks.