Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 23:04     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:Which screwup was the most cringeworthy though?

The prerecorded attempts to stage incidents, the lack of fuel, the expired and missing rations, the dry rotted tires, the cope cages, the mud, Lukushenko leaking the invasion map with Moldova on it, the Belorusian troops refusing to enter, Kazakhstan saying no, TASS posting Putin's victory statement early, the Chechen assasination squad that leaked their own location on social media, the general killed because he was jumping up and down, or the pay phone call to let the Kremlin know about it?


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Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 22:49     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Which screwup was the most cringeworthy though?

The prerecorded attempts to stage incidents, the lack of fuel, the expired and missing rations, the dry rotted tires, the cope cages, the mud, Lukushenko leaking the invasion map with Moldova on it, the Belorusian troops refusing to enter, Kazakhstan saying no, TASS posting Putin's victory statement early, the Chechen assasination squad that leaked their own location on social media, the general killed because he was jumping up and down, or the pay phone call to let the Kremlin know about it?
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 22:02     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

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Anonymous wrote:I think Ukraine has about 45, so 98 is a huge addition.


Worthless if they don't have the pilots to fly them and the crews to service them


What's the equivalent of sour grapes in Russia?
Bitter beets?


LOL. Thanks for the laugh PP!


Pickled tomatoes

Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 22:02     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

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Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...


"They fell off a truck" and Ukrainian farmers found them and towed them to a Ukrainian runway with their tractors


Ha ha ha! That's exactly what's going to happen. Just like that Ukrainian farmer who towed a Russian tank with the soldiers desperately running after his tractor!





There've been several videos now of farmers towing Russian tanks and equipment. Joke on Twitter is that Ukrainian farmers are now the 6th largest army in Europe.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:59     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...


"They fell off a truck" and Ukrainian farmers found them and towed them to a Ukrainian runway with their tractors


It would not be the weirdest thing we have seen come out of Ukraine in the last two weeks


It actually wouldn't be weird at all. I was just reading that we did something similar in WWII. Left military equipment near the Canadian border, and the Canadians retrieved it and gave it to Britain.

I'm sure Poland could just park the jets where the farmers could come tow them.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:44     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...


"They fell off a truck" and Ukrainian farmers found them and towed them to a Ukrainian runway with their tractors


Ha ha ha! That's exactly what's going to happen. Just like that Ukrainian farmer who towed a Russian tank with the soldiers desperately running after his tractor!



Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:43     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...


"They fell off a truck" and Ukrainian farmers found them and towed them to a Ukrainian runway with their tractors


It would not be the weirdest thing we have seen come out of Ukraine in the last two weeks
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:37     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...


"They fell off a truck" and Ukrainian farmers found them and towed them to a Ukrainian runway with their tractors
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:36     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:At what point does China look at the mess Russia is mired in, with fully half their army ground forces committed and suffering 8-10% casualties, and decide that right NOW is the best time to take Siberia?

They’ve had plans of doing this for decades. They even call Siberia the “northern resource area” in internal discussions.

If I were Xi Jinping, I’d go for it right now. Start with a decapitating nuclear strike, accept some losses to a Russian retaliatory strike, and send my entire army into Siberia.


And Japan is talking about reclaiming the Kuril Islands from Russia... https://www.examiner.com.au/story/7650538/japan-renews-island-dispute-with-russia/

Russia is recruiting fighters from Syria to backfill losses in Ukraine, likely to lose their grip there as well...
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:29     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

^ BTW, America has publicly rejected the Polish offer of using the German US base as a location for the exchange.

I'm sure negotiations are ongoing to get them to shut up and have them enter Ukrainian territory in an unobtrusive way...
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 21:27     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion



I don't know why Polish-American fighter jet negotiations are public, but every European country with old-fashioned Soviet era fighter jets that Ukrainians are trained to used is currently in DISCREET negotiations to get them into Ukraine. They will of course come with missiles, otherwise they are useless.

Perhaps the Poles wanted to leverage being the first to offer jets publicly to get the best financing offer by the US for a entirely new and modern fleet...

... because nothing is free is in this world, not even goodwill gestures to a country in desperate need.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 20:11     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

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Anonymous wrote:I think Ukraine has about 45, so 98 is a huge addition.


Wow, that's a huge infusion at the same time Russia is transporting in plumbing repair vans for reinforcement.

It’s about two squadrons worth of MiGs (9.12 and a couple of UBs) that were due to be replaced anyway with F-16V. It’s a great gesture for sure and I love how the Poles are leading NATOs response but let’s keep things in perspective.


Poland put Biden in a tough spot. Poland basically is saying step up America and do the deal out of Germany so we are all in this together.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 19:51     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

At what point does China look at the mess Russia is mired in, with fully half their army ground forces committed and suffering 8-10% casualties, and decide that right NOW is the best time to take Siberia?

They’ve had plans of doing this for decades. They even call Siberia the “northern resource area” in internal discussions.

If I were Xi Jinping, I’d go for it right now. Start with a decapitating nuclear strike, accept some losses to a Russian retaliatory strike, and send my entire army into Siberia.
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 16:39     Subject: Military observations on Ukraine invasion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Ukraine has about 45, so 98 is a huge addition.


Worthless if they don't have the pilots to fly them and the crews to service them


What's the equivalent of sour grapes in Russia?
Bitter beets?


LOL. Thanks for the laugh PP!
Anonymous
Post 03/08/2022 16:26     Subject: Re:Military observations on Ukraine invasion

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the second General who was killed?

Do generals often get killed in wars? I would think rank hath some benefit…


I think the generals have had to get closer to the front lines to try to unclown the Russian military clown show.


In WW2 about 40 US general and flag officers died. Many though were plan crashes incluidng Nathan Beford Forrest III and a guy named Stonewall Jackson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._general_officers_and_flag_officers_killed_in_World_War_II

That is really not a lot.


IN WWII we lost 3 2 star and up flag officers to hostile fire. Russia has already equaled that number. It really is a lot.


And WWII lasted 4 years for the US. Russia has lost than many in less than a month.