Anonymous wrote:I wonder if these bullied beta males getting picked on are getting more and more enraged because they can't 'escape' who they were when they were bullied.

In the 70s, 80s, 90s - when you were a target of bullies eventually they would move on in a few months and everyone would forget you got stuffed into locker in February by summer.

But if kids are taping the acts for their texts, snapchats, twitters, and private accounts...your humiliation lives forever. I couldn't imagine knowing everyone had access to that in the school forever.

Still wouldn't kill someone over it but just a thought.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

I would bet anything he was being tormented at school for being poor, pudgy, and unathletic. Bullying is so freaking cruel and typically nobody at large high schools gives a damn.

This.

Most school and workplace shootings don’t happen in a vacuum. These kids lash out in these cases because they’ve been teased, bullied and ostracized their whole lives, and they reach their breaking point and go supernova.


Pearl Jam understood this in the song “Jeremy” 25 years ago

“…… Clearly I remember
Pickin' on the boy
Seemed a harmless little f@@k
But we unleashed the lion…. “


Bullying is the most evil, destructive thing kids can do. Because it creates Jeremy’s.


And shame on all of you here who so casually offhandedly dismiss any discussion of motive. You are disgusting, and a bully. And your own kids are probably bullies as well. You see things like this and it scares you, because it makes you consider the things you did to other children when you were younger. Or what you suspect your own kids are doing to a classmate right now. You think about what would happen if one of their victims snaps. You don’t actually care about the victim - you just care about that victim lashing out.

That’s why so many here are made so uncomfortable about any discussion of motive. And why you try to shutter any post about it.


-a formerly bullied kid now an adult

Love to you PP. You are correct.

Agree completely. I was bullied as a kid; now an adult.

The emotional scars heal slowly over a very long time, but they never go away completely.

So glad that our schools finally have good programs in place to intervene and stop bullying (FFX anyway).

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

I would bet anything he was being tormented at school for being poor, pudgy, and unathletic. Bullying is so freaking cruel and typically nobody at large high schools gives a damn.

This.

Most school and workplace shootings don’t happen in a vacuum. These kids lash out in these cases because they’ve been teased, bullied and ostracized their whole lives, and they reach their breaking point and go supernova.


Pearl Jam understood this in the song “Jeremy” 25 years ago

“…… Clearly I remember
Pickin' on the boy
Seemed a harmless little f@@k
But we unleashed the lion…. “


Bullying is the most evil, destructive thing kids can do. Because it creates Jeremy’s.


And shame on all of you here who so casually offhandedly dismiss any discussion of motive. You are disgusting, and a bully. And your own kids are probably bullies as well. You see things like this and it scares you, because it makes you consider the things you did to other children when you were younger. Or what you suspect your own kids are doing to a classmate right now. You think about what would happen if one of their victims snaps. You don’t actually care about the victim - you just care about that victim lashing out.

That’s why so many here are made so uncomfortable about any discussion of motive. And why you try to shutter any post about it.


-a formerly bullied kid now an adult

Love to you PP. You are correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: his parents --or father and stepmother, it's not clear--met with the principal THE SAME DAY about the kid's "concerning behavior" in school. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter?ref=scroll

If you were wondering what the meeting was about it was probably this:

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Anonymous wrote:Did you see the blog post by the mother of the alleged shooter? The last sentence, my god.

So weird some pps are leaping to the conclusion that he was mercilessly bullied based on extremely thin evidence and ignoring other kids who say he wasn’t bullied, the fact that victims were random. AND the completely bizarre and disinhibited mom.

I would bet anyone a million dollars that this kid was not bullied, but rather he was radicalized online. Remember how the narrative came out about how the Columbine shooters were bullied by the "white hat" jocks? It was all bullshit. They were virulent white supremacists and posted it all online.

This. Look at his parents

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Anonymous wrote:Cops manage to arrest a school shooter without violence, again. Cops are masters of restraint when it’s a white kid shooting people

Why do you think the shooter was white?

Geography, demography, and sociology make it a safe bet. Not a sure bet, but a safe bet.

Surprise! He’s white!

And check out his parents. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter

I was pretty sure yesterday that this shooter was white. Not just demographics but the report that he put up his hands and was arrested. Cops would have shot a POC and claimed self-defense.

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Anonymous wrote:Cops manage to arrest a school shooter without violence, again. Cops are masters of restraint when it’s a white kid shooting people

Why do you think the shooter was white?

Geography, demography, and sociology make it a safe bet. Not a sure bet, but a safe bet.

Surprise! He’s white!

And check out his parents. https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-crumbley-identified-as-oxford-high-school-michigan-mass-shooter

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question - if dad purchased this gun legally, what type of “gun control” are people looking for that would have prevented this?

Extend the felony murder law to include weapons in a shared household.

If a person under your guardianship and residing in your household kills another person in a public building or grounds (hospital, school, post office, airport, military facility) with your gun, you will be charged with felony murder just like they are.

Yup. Hold the owner accountable.

But that’s not really gun control, is it?

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He didn't have to be returned to that school - he had no "right" to return to that school - had his plan been uncovered before he actually killed some children. When you devise a way to terrorize the school - you lose.

Oh, so now you want zero tolerance because you think he's a white MAGA kid? Obama's admin just spent 8 years removing all of that because most frequently kicked out of and expelled from school were Black kids.

Not that poster, but regardless of race there should be zero tolerance.

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He didn't have to be returned to that school - he had no "right" to return to that school - had his plan been uncovered before he actually killed some children. When you devise a way to terrorize the school - you lose.

Oh, so now you want zero tolerance because you think he's a white MAGA kid? Obama's admin just spent 8 years removing all of that because most frequently kicked out of and expelled from school were Black kids.

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He didn't have to be returned to that school - he had no "right" to return to that school - had his plan been uncovered before he actually killed some children. When you devise a way to terrorize the school - you lose.