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Anonymous wrote:DS played golf for Clemson University and majored in business. After graduation, he also attended MBA at Clemson. He got multiple job offers from GS, JP Morgan, etc... He is making a lot of money at the age of 29, enough to retire in about five years.

That’s rare if we are being absolutely honest.

Clemson is not a target by any means. Playing D1 golf was a huge help to your kid, not Clemson.

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Anonymous wrote:Not affiliated with either Columbia or Princeton but I have to say NYC seems more enticing than a boring NJ suburb.

Princeton is a lot nicer to live in than morning side heights, especially if you are an athlete.

Columbia students look like bug people — it’s weird.

Yes, if you are an athlete, Columbia is the only ivy with its line of outdoor sportswear and gear - Columbia Apparel, Outdoor Apparel & Products. How do you beat that?

In addition to that Columbia has its own broadcast network and record label. Who else can say that?

That’s amazing!!! Helps build school spirit. Wink.

Columbia is obviously the BEST

of the lower Ivys

You must have missed this post earlier in the thread:

Phrases people use that let me know they are unintelligent:

Anything racist
"I'm Just Saying"
"For All Intensive Purposes"
"I did my own research about vaccines"
"It is what it is"
"Snowflake", "Crotchfruit" or anything similar
"Lower Ivy"

I'm just saying....

Do NOT agree that using the descriptor "Lower Ivy" indicates lower intelligence given it refers to the reality that, in terms of prestige and ranking, some Ivy League institutions are stratified as "upper" while some are stratified as "lower".

Speaking of how Wall Street banks and and elite employers perceive these schools, which is the actual topic of this thread, here is a quote from a research article titled "Ivies, Extracurriculars, and Exclusion: Elite Employers' Use of Educational Credentials:" "Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and University of Pennsylvania (general studies) were frequently described as 'second tier' schools that were filled primarily with candidates who 'didn’t get in' to a super-elite school."

The article surveyed many of the employers from these elite Wall Street firms, and this was the general consensus among them. In Wall Street, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, and Wharton are the Upper Ivies. The original data from this thread supports this too.

So you can call Columbia a lower ivy, and no one will stop you, but no one will believe your words either.

I'm pretty sure Columbia is a lower Ivy.

Lower Ivy still >>>> whatever school you went to, my dear

Yes, Columbia is a far better school that I attended but it is still a Lower Ivy (lower than HYP).

Lower than HYP and about the same as Penn

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.

Columbia is probably 5th best, after HYP and Penn (Wharton)

It’s so funny that this one person keeps posting the same stupid s*** when there are multiple posters trying to stop it. I now have a very bad impression of UPenn because of this poster

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Anonymous wrote:D1 athletes trump HYPS based on my personal experience. I work for the Blacktone group and JP Morgan before that in the technology group. They recruit D1 athletes mostly in golf, tennis, and lacrosse from schools like UNC, UCLA, USC, etc... and put them on the fast track for future leadership of the companies. HYPS graduates get a very few left over spots.

You're not going to convince anyone that USC and UNC have better placement than the schools listed. This is hard data

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.

Columbia is probably 5th best, after HYP and Penn (Wharton)

It’s so funny that this one person keeps posting the same stupid s*** when there are multiple posters trying to stop it. I now have a very bad impression of UPenn because of this poster

I can't believe that anybody equates business school with a good education.

What is your definition of a good education? What majors, in your opinion, provide a good education? Don't be jealous of people with business education.

Anonymous wrote:D1 athletes trump HYPS based on my personal experience. I work for the Blacktone group and JP Morgan before that in the technology group. They recruit D1 athletes mostly in golf, tennis, and lacrosse from schools like UNC, UCLA, USC, etc... and put them on the fast track for future leadership of the companies. HYPS graduates get a very few left over spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.

Columbia is probably 5th best, after HYP and Penn (Wharton)

It’s so funny that this one person keeps posting the same stupid s*** when there are multiple posters trying to stop it. I now have a very bad impression of UPenn because of this poster

I can't believe that anybody equates business school with a good education.

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Anonymous wrote:D1 athletes trump HYPS based on my personal experience. I work for the Blacktone group and JP Morgan before that in the technology group. They recruit D1 athletes mostly in golf, tennis, and lacrosse from schools like UNC, UCLA, USC, etc... and put them on the fast track for future leadership of the companies. HYPS graduates get a very few left over spots.

This is probably the last of the old boys' network and one that rarely gets commented on for all the handwringing over legacies or AA admits. You play D1 sports and certain sports at that and for certain schools, you're set for life.

Anonymous wrote:D1 athletes trump HYPS based on my personal experience. I work for the Blacktone group and JP Morgan before that in the technology group. They recruit D1 athletes mostly in golf, tennis, and lacrosse from schools like UNC, UCLA, USC, etc... and put them on the fast track for future leadership of the companies. HYPS graduates get a very few left over spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.

Columbia is probably 5th best, after HYP and Penn (Wharton)

It’s so funny that this one person keeps posting the same stupid s*** when there are multiple posters trying to stop it. I now have a very bad impression of UPenn because of this poster

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Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.

Columbia is probably 5th best, after HYP and Penn (Wharton)

Anonymous wrote:Columbia has better than the other ivy's except UPenn because of location. It's right down the street from Wallstreet, recruiting costs money and there's no need to travel to Yale when Columbia is right there. Also, UPenn is #1 because of Wharton obviously. Instead of nitpicking about the top 5, focus on the outliers in the ranking.