Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:48     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

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Honestly I don’t see under what grounds they could request that and have it honored. It’s the first major airline accident in the U.S. in 25 years- of course the names of the military members involved were going to be revealed along with the manifest of everyone on the commercial flight.


A couple of days to scrub her socials, google search, public records, and who knows what else? This young lady was clearly another “JD Vance” they were grooming for high office.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:45     Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:28 years old.



Can someone explain how someone so young in the military was… a both a high ranking helicopter pilot and moonlighting as a White House aide?


Graduated college at 22 and did ROTC, gets commissioned as a 2LT. Officer basic and flight school take about 2 yrs. She probably made Captain after being in 4-5 yrs total, so somewhat recently. 500 hrs is about 2-3 post flight school which would make sense for her age and rank


But would it make sense for the position she was in on that BH on a busy Wednesday evening potentially transporting a VIP?


Are you insinuating she was personally requested by the VIP? In other words, the VIP was someone she knew from the Biden WH, who was going to Langley after Trump was sworn in?


No, not at all. Just that I can't imagine they would send some Joe Rookie to ferry a VIP.


She must have had some specific qualities.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:44     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:She was the DEI that was the focus immediately afterwards?

The Administration was trying to rile people up into assuming the pilot was an incompetent black woman. I don’t know how many posts I read on here and X stating the pilot was a black woman.


No. Most just assumed a woman. And they assumed right. Trump was obviously told who was senior command on that helicopter and then popped off right after on live TV.


Yes, but he popped off about ATCs, not about pilots. He suggested strongly that the cause of the crash was an ATC who was a DEI hire.


It could be both! We don’t yet know the names of the ATC supervisor, ATC who went home early, and sole on-duty ATC. Could very well be both ATC error and pilot error. Trump was clearly seized with both the helicopter’s incorrect altitude and ATC.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:43     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are focused on the assumption it was a black woman. In terms of DEI, a woman crew member of a BH of any color, white included, would absolutely be considered a DEI hire.


Only if the credentials don’t match that of her peers. Show us her background.

Libs think DEI means black chicks and Republicans think it means people that don’t deserve it but get it anyways, probably because they’re black chicks but not always. If they’re just a chick the question remains if their credentials meet that of other high level, accident free, pilots


Point is these questions should apply no matter the person's race, gender, or other characteristics... not "oh, it's a white dude? free pass" and "oh, it's not a white dude? possible DEI, scrutinize background". White dudes can get opportunities because of connections, family, etc. rather than pure objective merit just as well as anyone else.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:37     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why was hwe name released after the family asked not to?


Honestly I don’t see under what grounds they could request that and have it honored. It’s the first major airline accident in the U.S. in 25 years- of course the names of the military members involved were going to be revealed along with the manifest of everyone on the commercial flight.


They only asked for a delay. And they received it.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:34     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was the DEI that was the focus immediately afterwards?

The Administration was trying to rile people up into assuming the pilot was an incompetent black woman. I don’t know how many posts I read on here and X stating the pilot was a black woman.


No. Most just assumed a woman. And they assumed right. Trump was obviously told who was senior command on that helicopter and then popped off right after on live TV.


Yes, but he popped off about ATCs, not about pilots. He suggested strongly that the cause of the crash was an ATC who was a DEI hire.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:21     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was the DEI that was the focus immediately afterwards?

The Administration was trying to rile people up into assuming the pilot was an incompetent black woman. I don’t know how many posts I read on here and X stating the pilot was a black woman.


No. Most just assumed a woman. And they assumed right. Trump was obviously told who was senior command on that helicopter and then popped off right after on live TV.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:17     Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?

I’m blaming the military and not the specific BH pilots. There was an incident less than 24 hours before the crash where a commercial airline had to abort a landing due to helicopter traffic below them. Why did that incident not trigger a moratorium on helicopter training exercises until the incident was reviewed for safety issues? How are incidents like this reported?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:03     Subject: Re:Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:Rest in peace Captain Lobach. Thank you for your service to this country.


AMEN

Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:03     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

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Anonymous wrote:That's a fast track for ROTC/Guard duty to make Capt at 4 yrs. And with relatively few hours.


She was active duty. I made captain at 3.5 yrs. 4 yrs is about average for active duty unless things have changed


At your level of competence at that point, would you have been put in charge of something comparable?


I wasn’t in aviation, but I did work closely with pilots. Of the missions expected of Black Hawk pilots, this should have been a very easy flight. I don’t know about the “check in” thing or if she was purposely given a challenging/dangerous script she had to follow to see if she could recover or something. But if the training was simply to fly the night route safely- it should have been something very routine
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are focused on the assumption it was a black woman. In terms of DEI, a woman crew member of a BH of any color, white included, would absolutely be considered a DEI hire.


Only if the credentials don’t match that of her peers. Show us her background.

Libs think DEI means black chicks and Republicans think it means people that don’t deserve it but get it anyways, probably because they’re black chicks but not always. If they’re just a chick the question remains if their credentials meet that of other high level, accident free, pilots


Her credentials are top notch, douche. .
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 20:00     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She was the DEI that was the focus immediately afterwards?

The Administration was trying to rile people up into assuming the pilot was an incompetent black woman. I don’t know how many posts I read on here and X stating the pilot was a black woman.


I had an acquaintance say the same crap yesterday.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 19:56     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's a fast track for ROTC/Guard duty to make Capt at 4 yrs. And with relatively few hours.


She was active duty. I made captain at 3.5 yrs. 4 yrs is about average for active duty unless things have changed


At your level of competence at that point, would you have been put in charge of something comparable?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 19:55     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

Anonymous wrote:That's a fast track for ROTC/Guard duty to make Capt at 4 yrs. And with relatively few hours.


She was active duty. I made captain at 3.5 yrs. 4 yrs is about average for active duty unless things have changed
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2025 19:53     Subject: Plane crash DCA?

That's a fast track for ROTC/Guard duty to make Capt at 4 yrs. And with relatively few hours.