Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 17:23     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Whether one wants to admit it's politically motivated or not, it's evident that the anti-CCers aren't out there calling out all of the disinformation that definitely is politically motivated that's coming from within their own ranks regardless of "what aisle." That ends up hurting anti-CC credibility.


Please translate into plain English. What does this sentence even mean?
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 16:52     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:
Instead have people running around believing FOX News style articles saying things like "Common Core is forcing our kids to convert to Islam!" and the anti-CCers just rub their hands together in twisted glee and say "yay, we have another anti-CC convert, we don't care how we get them, as long as we get them!"


Once again, you show your bias. Straw man.

You really think this is political? Do you not understand that there are opponents on both sides of the aisle? You are naïve.


Whether one wants to admit it's politically motivated or not, it's evident that the anti-CCers aren't out there calling out all of the disinformation that definitely is politically motivated that's coming from within their own ranks regardless of "what aisle." That ends up hurting anti-CC credibility.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 15:47     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Isn't that trawling?
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 12:43     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them


Trolling" social media? How is it possible to troll social media? Social media is public, by definition. That's its whole point.

Also, if students during the test were snapping pictures of the test with their smartphones and posting the pictures to social media, there actually was a problem with the monitoring of the test.


I agree about the monitors. "Trolling" was being used in the original sense. It's a fishing term. Look it up. I guess you are not familiar with it.



Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 10:22     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

"Trolling" social media? How is it possible to troll social media? Social media is public, by definition. That's its whole point.

Also, if students during the test were snapping pictures of the test with their smartphones and posting the pictures to social media, there actually was a problem with the monitoring of the test.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 10:17     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28037587/colorado-teachers-disciplined-after-students-leak-parcc-items

Trolling contractor found more problems. Teachers /monitors get the blame.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 10:01     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Well, it is not political with me. I don't like NCLB and I don't like Common Core.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 09:00     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:
Instead have people running around believing FOX News style articles saying things like "Common Core is forcing our kids to convert to Islam!" and the anti-CCers just rub their hands together in twisted glee and say "yay, we have another anti-CC convert, we don't care how we get them, as long as we get them!"


Once again, you show your bias. Straw man.

You really think this is political? Do you not understand that there are opponents on both sides of the aisle? You are naïve.


I'm not the PP you're responding to, but yes, it actually is political, and it is naïve to say that it is not political. It is not ONLY political, but it is political.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:58     Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Frankly, if my kid did this, I'd want to see them punished so they'd think before posting next time. I'm not saying I'd want my kid expelled, I think that's a major overstatement, but I think that detention or a community service penalty is an appropriate response, and one that would make the kid think twice before he encounters more serious consequences for not thinking before posting.


What a load of BS. I think you might want to see the actual content of the Twitter post before you jump on the Pearson bandwagon.

Pearson deserves every bad thing coming to it. I only hope other kids use this as an inspiration!



Exactly. F Pearson, AIR and all the other data mining jerkoffs. All parents have to do is refuse to allow their kids on the internet while they are at school. Since when do we want our kids taught by tablets instead of teachers? They can do internet assignments at home, under their parents supervision, without Contractual obligations and Creepster Spies.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:55     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Instead have people running around believing FOX News style articles saying things like "Common Core is forcing our kids to convert to Islam!" and the anti-CCers just rub their hands together in twisted glee and say "yay, we have another anti-CC convert, we don't care how we get them, as long as we get them!"


Once again, you show your bias. Straw man.

You really think this is political? Do you not understand that there are opponents on both sides of the aisle? You are naïve.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:50     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:

Are you going to redefine "general public" now?


No. Just pointing out that the "general public" does not have college education.






Bet you dollars to donuts that the typical member of the general public who doesn't have a college degree isn't sitting around reading education standards anyhow, no matter how they are written. Instead have people running around believing FOX News style articles saying things like "Common Core is forcing our kids to convert to Islam!" and the anti-CCers just rub their hands together in twisted glee and say "yay, we have another anti-CC convert, we don't care how we get them, as long as we get them!"
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:45     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:

Do you think the Common Core will result in higher SAT scores? Or will it be because the SAT has changed to fit Common Core?


Not the PP, but if the SAT is changed to reflect Common Core standards, I imagine the scores will go up. And, the scores on standardized tests designed to go with Common Core will also go up. That is because the tests are designed to go with the standards. The question is: are these the right standards? Will all kids be able to think outside the Common Core box?

Ironic that our whole education system is being changed by one group of people--and we don't even know how they were selected, or who selected them. We do know that there were almost no classroom teachers on the committees and NO early childhood teachers.

Sad.




Again, you have it wrong, Common Core is not a "box" - it's a minimum standard, which means you are perfectly free to do and go beyond the minimum. You keep throwing false premises out there.
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:33     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:

Do you think the Common Core will result in higher SAT scores? Or will it be because the SAT has changed to fit Common Core?


Not the PP, but if the SAT is changed to reflect Common Core standards, I imagine the scores will go up. And, the scores on standardized tests designed to go with Common Core will also go up. That is because the tests are designed to go with the standards. The question is: are these the right standards? Will all kids be able to think outside the Common Core box?

Ironic that our whole education system is being changed by one group of people--and we don't even know how they were selected, or who selected them. We do know that there were almost no classroom teachers on the committees and NO early childhood teachers.

Sad.



Which Common Core box is that? Could you please provide some examples of standards that box in a student's thinking, in your opinion?
Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:31     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them


Do you think the Common Core will result in higher SAT scores? Or will it be because the SAT has changed to fit Common Core?


Not the PP, but if the SAT is changed to reflect Common Core standards, I imagine the scores will go up. And, the scores on standardized tests designed to go with Common Core will also go up. That is because the tests are designed to go with the standards. The question is: are these the right standards? Will all kids be able to think outside the Common Core box?

Ironic that our whole education system is being changed by one group of people--and we don't even know how they were selected, or who selected them. We do know that there were almost no classroom teachers on the committees and NO early childhood teachers.

Sad.


Anonymous
Post 05/05/2015 07:23     Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

Anonymous wrote:
But I do have a kid who experienced the previous curriculum.

Also, we (meaning, public schools in the US) clearly are doing a good job, in some places, for some kids. But not in all places, for all kids.


Montgomery County is probably not one of the places that was having as many problems before Common Core . . . don't they have consistently high scores on SAT, etc. there?

Do you think the Common Core will result in higher SAT scores? Or will it be because the SAT has changed to fit Common Core?


I don't know, and I don't particularly care.