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Anonymous wrote:So if the final recommended option is to move Wootton to Crown + Rosemont and Fieldsroad ESs, and then start to use Wootton as a holding school for Damascus and the other HS that are on the priority list, then eventually renovate Wootton, and move Wootton students back after like 10-15 years. Would Wootton family be happy with this option?

No

No Damascus parent wants HS kids driving to Wootton in Rockville or Crown.

Not following this closely but as a Damascus parent who went to the cluster meeting at Damascus HS where Taylor spoke option H was laughed at by everyone including Taylor. He even said *they* (central office) don't like that plan and not one parent took it seriously. The debate was purely between staying on site or going to Crown as a holding school and I think the room was evenly split.

Taylor is a politician. The way he has been talking to Wootton cluster is very different. He has told Adam Van Grack that there will be a holding school. It’s between Crown vs. Wootton.

Can we stop fighting each other and fighting MCPS? Look at what these posters were saying! Apparently when talking to Damascus, Taylor says H is a joke option. When talking to Wootton, Taylor says it’s either EFGH.

It wouldn't surprise me if he was just pandering to us after the universal disdain we at Damascus had for option H. My main point is that no parent in Damascus wants H. I voted for EFG personally. The parents with kids who'd have to go to Crown are more hesitant and likely to vote for the A-D options. The faster build timeline and ability to have a better building plan swayed me. Taylor also told us that Eastern Middle School is actually the top priority project but Damascus is the top high school project. Again, this is only if you can believe a word he says...

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

This made me actually laugh out loud.

I agree with the other posts. Let’s not single out Dufief or anyone for that matter. This is what BOE wants. Don’t forget who is actually responsible for putting us in this situation.

Seth Adams?

Who is Seth Adams? Jan’s husband?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

This made me actually laugh out loud.

I agree with the other posts. Let’s not single out Dufief or anyone for that matter. This is what BOE wants. Don’t forget who is actually responsible for putting us in this situation.

Seth Adams?

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

This made me actually laugh out loud.

I agree with the other posts. Let’s not single out Dufief or anyone for that matter. This is what BOE wants. Don’t forget who is actually responsible for putting us in this situation.

Anonymous wrote:For real though, let's settle this on the Frost hill when we are covered in snow on Monday. Taylor and his squad can be the refs. Winners stay in cluster, losers walk to Watkins Mill

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief parents who now support H: Why were you all collectively pissed when the first options had send all of you to Crown. If Wootton is such bad conditions, you should’ve been happy with the original options?

I say those who want to go to Crown, should just go. Sounds like Dufief Travilah and Stone Mill want to go. Add in Rosemont and Fields Road and you got a high school of roughly ~2200, which matches perfectly with Crown’s size. This alleviates overcrowding at QO and Gaithersburg HS.

Leave Wootton to Fallsmead, Lakewood, Cold Spring families. Add in Wayside—half of Potomac Glen is currently split between Lakewood (which feeds into Wootton) and Wayside anyways. Then add in RM neighborhoods including the very walkable neighborhood of Horizon Hill and Fallsgrove, which is walkable as well (a lot of Wootton kids walk to Fallsgrove all the time). This justifies keeping Wootton as a cluster and alleviates overcrowding at RM and Churchill.

Welcome, you must be new. Dufief has been involved in this since June. Dufief was "pissed" because they split Dufief- and only Dufief- out of Wootton. Dufief overlapa constantly with Stone Mill and Travillah kids, that is their community. But the first options only sent Dufief to Crown. If they had sent Dufief, Stone Mill and Travillah all to Crown that at least would have made geographical sense. If you had any idea of the history here you would already know why Dufief was so mad.

Actually not new . Been following this issue from the beginning. Just find it ironic all these Dufief parents are talking about how happy they are getting a new school because Wootton is unsafe. Tell me does Dufief being the only school being sent make the Wootton building any more or less safe? If Dufief parents truly believed Wootton is unsafe, they should have been happy with the original options even if they were the only ones "lucky" enough to be districted to Crown. Or, is the argument about safety changing now?

I'm all for the most geographical sensible boundaries. Precisely why I did not buy in Dufief. By all means, send Dufief, Stone Mill, and Travilah kids to Crown. Don't send the rest of the kids who can walk to Wootton. Leave us in our "unsafe" building.

You write this as if the families in Dufief are setting the boundaries. “Then you should just go.” Not sure why it’s hard to understand they didn’t want to be split off alone. Then new options appears and what you describe in your comment doesn’t exist. Unless, like option W, you’re trying to create your own? Option x, perhaps?

If we don’t propose an option, it’s why are you just saying you are against H, you need to be for something. Why don’t you use your energy to propose something.
Then lol someone proposes something, are you trying to create your own option?

Because Dufief doesn’t need to. They’d be fine with e-h. You’re not happy with any

I would be THRILLED with EFG. Dufief will be redistricted in 5-10 years. I’ll still walk to my “objectively unsafe school.”

SO WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT ABOUT?! sounds like we agree on some of the options. My goodness!

lol literally is what I said earlier. We all agree on E. Let’s talk about anything else.

Anyone watching Ripple on Netflix?

No do you recommend it? I just watched Adolescence on Netflix and oof…

It’s just ok but I’m invested now. Adolescence is on my list but it scares me.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

This made me actually laugh out loud.

I agree with the other posts. Let’s not single out Dufief or anyone for that matter. This is what BOE wants. Don’t forget who is actually responsible for putting us in this situation.

Dammit, it’s Jan isn’t it. She’s the mastermind.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief parents who now support H: Why were you all collectively pissed when the first options had send all of you to Crown. If Wootton is such bad conditions, you should’ve been happy with the original options?

I say those who want to go to Crown, should just go. Sounds like Dufief Travilah and Stone Mill want to go. Add in Rosemont and Fields Road and you got a high school of roughly ~2200, which matches perfectly with Crown’s size. This alleviates overcrowding at QO and Gaithersburg HS.

Leave Wootton to Fallsmead, Lakewood, Cold Spring families. Add in Wayside—half of Potomac Glen is currently split between Lakewood (which feeds into Wootton) and Wayside anyways. Then add in RM neighborhoods including the very walkable neighborhood of Horizon Hill and Fallsgrove, which is walkable as well (a lot of Wootton kids walk to Fallsgrove all the time). This justifies keeping Wootton as a cluster and alleviates overcrowding at RM and Churchill.

Welcome, you must be new. Dufief has been involved in this since June. Dufief was "pissed" because they split Dufief- and only Dufief- out of Wootton. Dufief overlapa constantly with Stone Mill and Travillah kids, that is their community. But the first options only sent Dufief to Crown. If they had sent Dufief, Stone Mill and Travillah all to Crown that at least would have made geographical sense. If you had any idea of the history here you would already know why Dufief was so mad.

Actually not new . Been following this issue from the beginning. Just find it ironic all these Dufief parents are talking about how happy they are getting a new school because Wootton is unsafe. Tell me does Dufief being the only school being sent make the Wootton building any more or less safe? If Dufief parents truly believed Wootton is unsafe, they should have been happy with the original options even if they were the only ones "lucky" enough to be districted to Crown. Or, is the argument about safety changing now?

I'm all for the most geographical sensible boundaries. Precisely why I did not buy in Dufief. By all means, send Dufief, Stone Mill, and Travilah kids to Crown. Don't send the rest of the kids who can walk to Wootton. Leave us in our "unsafe" building.

You write this as if the families in Dufief are setting the boundaries. “Then you should just go.” Not sure why it’s hard to understand they didn’t want to be split off alone. Then new options appears and what you describe in your comment doesn’t exist. Unless, like option W, you’re trying to create your own? Option x, perhaps?

If we don’t propose an option, it’s why are you just saying you are against H, you need to be for something. Why don’t you use your energy to propose something.
Then lol someone proposes something, are you trying to create your own option?

Because Dufief doesn’t need to. They’d be fine with e-h. You’re not happy with any

I would be THRILLED with EFG. Dufief will be redistricted in 5-10 years. I’ll still walk to my “objectively unsafe school.”

SO WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT ABOUT?! sounds like we agree on some of the options. My goodness!

lol literally is what I said earlier. We all agree on E. Let’s talk about anything else.

Anyone watching Ripple on Netflix?

No do you recommend it? I just watched Adolescence on Netflix and oof…

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

This made me actually laugh out loud.

I agree with the other posts. Let’s not single out Dufief or anyone for that matter. This is what BOE wants. Don’t forget who is actually responsible for putting us in this situation.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

Too far to walk.

(Kidding, kidding!! Too soon?)

Anonymous wrote:Can we please save this energy for the board on 1/22 and not each other?

Let’s relax, grab some dinner, prepare for the snowstorm. Meet yall and your kids at Frost Hill.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief parents who now support H: Why were you all collectively pissed when the first options had send all of you to Crown. If Wootton is such bad conditions, you should’ve been happy with the original options?

I say those who want to go to Crown, should just go. Sounds like Dufief Travilah and Stone Mill want to go. Add in Rosemont and Fields Road and you got a high school of roughly ~2200, which matches perfectly with Crown’s size. This alleviates overcrowding at QO and Gaithersburg HS.

Leave Wootton to Fallsmead, Lakewood, Cold Spring families. Add in Wayside—half of Potomac Glen is currently split between Lakewood (which feeds into Wootton) and Wayside anyways. Then add in RM neighborhoods including the very walkable neighborhood of Horizon Hill and Fallsgrove, which is walkable as well (a lot of Wootton kids walk to Fallsgrove all the time). This justifies keeping Wootton as a cluster and alleviates overcrowding at RM and Churchill.

Welcome, you must be new. Dufief has been involved in this since June. Dufief was "pissed" because they split Dufief- and only Dufief- out of Wootton. Dufief overlapa constantly with Stone Mill and Travillah kids, that is their community. But the first options only sent Dufief to Crown. If they had sent Dufief, Stone Mill and Travillah all to Crown that at least would have made geographical sense. If you had any idea of the history here you would already know why Dufief was so mad.

Actually not new . Been following this issue from the beginning. Just find it ironic all these Dufief parents are talking about how happy they are getting a new school because Wootton is unsafe. Tell me does Dufief being the only school being sent make the Wootton building any more or less safe? If Dufief parents truly believed Wootton is unsafe, they should have been happy with the original options even if they were the only ones "lucky" enough to be districted to Crown. Or, is the argument about safety changing now?

I'm all for the most geographical sensible boundaries. Precisely why I did not buy in Dufief. By all means, send Dufief, Stone Mill, and Travilah kids to Crown. Don't send the rest of the kids who can walk to Wootton. Leave us in our "unsafe" building.

100%. The very few non-troll Wootton parents who support H are Dufief parents. They all say because option H is the only option where my child will get to go to a safe school. LOL no it's not. Options A-D also get your kid to a "safe school." At least stay consistent. If you support H because you really think Wootton is unsafe, you should logically also support A-D. Safety trumps all. It shouldn't matter if you are the only ES being moved to Crown because your kid's safety should be the most important factor.

Let's be real here. It's not about safety. If it were, Dufief parents would NEVER have pushed back on A-D like they almost UNIVERSALLY DID. It's pretty obvious. Dufief knew under A-D, their property values would have lowered and their kids would have gone from one of the highest ranked HS to an average ranking HS (and that's being generous). They see H as their ONLY saving grace. The logic is if we're doomed either way to go to Crown, might as well make the rest of the cluster move with us so that the rankings will be that drastic of a change.

Just be real and say the truth. Stop saying I support H because it's the only option where my kid gets to a safe school. SAY YOU SUPPORT A-D IF YOU REALLY THINK IT'S ABOUT SAFETY.

DUFIEF PUSHED BACK ON A-D BECAUSE THEY WANT TO STAY WTH THEIR CLUSTER. What don't you understand? It is BOTH. Stay with cluster AND safe school. Dufief was also told after the new utilization numbers came out that they could probably stay with the cluster in a modified A-D since there was now room at Frost. Nothing in writing though and can't trust MCPS so they won't end their advocacy against A-D.

Since then, all of these safety issues came out. Asbestos, mold, really??? Of course they want a safe school. It's insane that the other Wootton parents don't and are willing to settle for status quo as long as they can walk to school. Sorry, but magic money is not going to fall out of the sky to renovate Wootton and open Crown as a new high school.

And guess what? H isn't my first choice. I think Crown should be a holding school and E or F should be selected. Maybe Wootton should have collectively pushed those instead of an imaginary option.

Lol at this poster who either doesn’t get it or just doesn’t want to admit it.

KeEp tHe ClUsTeR together. Did you not read anything the other poster said?

Just admit Dufief rather Cold Spring and Fallsmead be the edge properties.

Meanwhile, I can’t believe you took the time to mix caps. I’m glad you did though, that never gets old and I’m not being sarcastic. Made me giggle.

OK now it’s time to get serious. Why are you trying to pin one school against another within the same cluster? This is the problem, it’s not like this is Sophie‘s Choice. Why can’t Dufief want to stay in the cluster without wanting to push another school out? That’s why many are in favor of option H, because nobody from our cluster gets pushed out. You also seemed very threatened of Dufief. Don’t be, we just want to be part of the Wootton cluster as we always have been. That’s it. Do you blame us? Wootton is great! Don’t be so angry!

Because as PP said, supporting H does not keep the cluster together in the long run.

Ah. I don’t think I saw that. I hope it does. I hope the cluster doesn’t change. Lots of uncertainty but thats what I hope.

Can we go back to mixing caps? That was more fun than being so serious.

Not PP but I think this is why they are upset. Sounds like they feel sold out by folks who want to go to H because it keeps the cluster intact. They keep saying Cold Spring and Fallsmead become edge properties, so I assume they live in one of those communities. While no Dufief person is asking for CS or Fallsmead to be removed from the cluster, PP is saying the logical conclusion of H means CS and Fallsmead will be pushed out.

I’m not saying that is the long term effects of H—anything can happen with this Board, but I can see why someone who believes as PP does (and many people do) would be upset about H.

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Anonymous wrote:Dufief parents who now support H: Why were you all collectively pissed when the first options had send all of you to Crown. If Wootton is such bad conditions, you should’ve been happy with the original options?

I say those who want to go to Crown, should just go. Sounds like Dufief Travilah and Stone Mill want to go. Add in Rosemont and Fields Road and you got a high school of roughly ~2200, which matches perfectly with Crown’s size. This alleviates overcrowding at QO and Gaithersburg HS.

Leave Wootton to Fallsmead, Lakewood, Cold Spring families. Add in Wayside—half of Potomac Glen is currently split between Lakewood (which feeds into Wootton) and Wayside anyways. Then add in RM neighborhoods including the very walkable neighborhood of Horizon Hill and Fallsgrove, which is walkable as well (a lot of Wootton kids walk to Fallsgrove all the time). This justifies keeping Wootton as a cluster and alleviates overcrowding at RM and Churchill.

Welcome, you must be new. Dufief has been involved in this since June. Dufief was "pissed" because they split Dufief- and only Dufief- out of Wootton. Dufief overlapa constantly with Stone Mill and Travillah kids, that is their community. But the first options only sent Dufief to Crown. If they had sent Dufief, Stone Mill and Travillah all to Crown that at least would have made geographical sense. If you had any idea of the history here you would already know why Dufief was so mad.

Actually not new . Been following this issue from the beginning. Just find it ironic all these Dufief parents are talking about how happy they are getting a new school because Wootton is unsafe. Tell me does Dufief being the only school being sent make the Wootton building any more or less safe? If Dufief parents truly believed Wootton is unsafe, they should have been happy with the original options even if they were the only ones "lucky" enough to be districted to Crown. Or, is the argument about safety changing now?

I'm all for the most geographical sensible boundaries. Precisely why I did not buy in Dufief. By all means, send Dufief, Stone Mill, and Travilah kids to Crown. Don't send the rest of the kids who can walk to Wootton. Leave us in our "unsafe" building.

You write this as if the families in Dufief are setting the boundaries. “Then you should just go.” Not sure why it’s hard to understand they didn’t want to be split off alone. Then new options appears and what you describe in your comment doesn’t exist. Unless, like option W, you’re trying to create your own? Option x, perhaps?

If we don’t propose an option, it’s why are you just saying you are against H, you need to be for something. Why don’t you use your energy to propose something.
Then lol someone proposes something, are you trying to create your own option?

Because Dufief doesn’t need to. They’d be fine with e-h. You’re not happy with any

I would be THRILLED with EFG. Dufief will be redistricted in 5-10 years. I’ll still walk to my “objectively unsafe school.”

SO WHAT IS THE ARGUMENT ABOUT?! sounds like we agree on some of the options. My goodness!

lol literally is what I said earlier. We all agree on E. Let’s talk about anything else.

Anyone watching Ripple on Netflix?