Anonymous wrote:Celeb Legal Drama has a fantastic breakdown of the "bakeoff." Before Blake even signed on, this was in the Sony contract: Baldoni only got final cut if he met very specific metrics against Sony's cut. There was always going to be a bakeoff per the contract he agreed to. Sony let Blake and Colleen take the lead on their cut (Colleen was upset Justin had cut her out of the creative process, Blake invited her to join).

Much of the info on this thread is either cherrypicked or just plain wrong. CLD breaks down all the data. Justin's cut did not meet a single metric benchmark stipulated in the contract. Therefore he did not get final cut, period. This happens all the time, which is why we sometimes later see "director's cuts."

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe it was hormones or postpartum anything. It was very strategic. I have seen enough of Ryan and Blake‘s correspondence to know they have a very manipulative way of communicating. It’s a lot of flattery and they like to create the illusion that they’re very close and they are being vulnerable with people. They create a “we are in this together” mentality.

She’s known this guy a month and she’s talking about the trust they have. I know I shouldn’t share this with you, but we’ve become so close type thing. It’s just very manipulative.

I’ve absolutely dealt with people like that in real life and can see right through it.

Anonymous wrote:I agree the voice note was unprofessional. It would have been better to put it in writing and run it by someone on her professional team, to communicate concerns that she was having about the schedule.

That said, I see nothing wrong with her reaching out to ask for accommodations with the shooting schedule. I suspect that's not that uncommon in Hollywood. She'd only signed onto the movie a month prior, probably got a schedule end of January or early February and saw some conflicts, and started to stress. It is appropriate in that situation to reach out and say "ok this timeline is problematic for me, what about xyz."

It also raises questions for me about when schedules were created and set, how they were communicated, etc. Again, I think the voice note was an unprofessional way to communicate her issues. But other people associated with the movie have spoken on Wayfarer being inexperienced and disorganized (Alex Saks, Ange Giannetti, even Jamey Heath has criticized Justin's organization and communication). So it's not hard to believe that Blake may have been responding to poorly communicated or late scheduling requests, panicking because she's getting this info literally as she's in labor, and trying to figure out how to address it before it gets set in stone. She still should have worked through her agent but I get why she may have felt time pressured and emotional due to the timing and made a bad choice.

Anonymous wrote:I don't quite understand what Lively is asking for - it sounds like she wants IEWU to start earlier? Is that because the other movie films after, or is she asking IEWU to film the scenes she's not in?

I'm sure one sucky part of being an actor is when suitable roles come along at a bad time for you personally/physically.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree the voice note was unprofessional. It would have been better to put it in writing and run it by someone on her professional team, to communicate concerns that she was having about the schedule.

That said, I see nothing wrong with her reaching out to ask for accommodations with the shooting schedule. I suspect that's not that uncommon in Hollywood. She'd only signed onto the movie a month prior, probably got a schedule end of January or early February and saw some conflicts, and started to stress. It is appropriate in that situation to reach out and say "ok this timeline is problematic for me, what about xyz."

It also raises questions for me about when schedules were created and set, how they were communicated, etc. Again, I think the voice note was an unprofessional way to communicate her issues. But other people associated with the movie have spoken on Wayfarer being inexperienced and disorganized (Alex Saks, Ange Giannetti, even Jamey Heath has criticized Justin's organization and communication). So it's not hard to believe that Blake may have been responding to poorly communicated or late scheduling requests, panicking because she's getting this info literally as she's in labor, and trying to figure out how to address it before it gets set in stone. She still should have worked through her agent but I get why she may have felt time pressured and emotional due to the timing and made a bad choice.

So much copium here.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe it was hormones or postpartum anything. It was very strategic. I have seen enough of Ryan and Blake‘s correspondence to know they have a very manipulative way of communicating. It’s a lot of flattery and they like to create the illusion that they’re very close and they are being vulnerable with people. They create a “we are in this together” mentality.

She’s known this guy a month and she’s talking about the trust they have. I know I shouldn’t share this with you, but we’ve become so close type thing. It’s just very manipulative.

I’ve absolutely dealt with people like that in real life and can see right through it.

Anonymous wrote:I agree the voice note was unprofessional. It would have been better to put it in writing and run it by someone on her professional team, to communicate concerns that she was having about the schedule.

That said, I see nothing wrong with her reaching out to ask for accommodations with the shooting schedule. I suspect that's not that uncommon in Hollywood. She'd only signed onto the movie a month prior, probably got a schedule end of January or early February and saw some conflicts, and started to stress. It is appropriate in that situation to reach out and say "ok this timeline is problematic for me, what about xyz."

It also raises questions for me about when schedules were created and set, how they were communicated, etc. Again, I think the voice note was an unprofessional way to communicate her issues. But other people associated with the movie have spoken on Wayfarer being inexperienced and disorganized (Alex Saks, Ange Giannetti, even Jamey Heath has criticized Justin's organization and communication). So it's not hard to believe that Blake may have been responding to poorly communicated or late scheduling requests, panicking because she's getting this info literally as she's in labor, and trying to figure out how to address it before it gets set in stone. She still should have worked through her agent but I get why she may have felt time pressured and emotional due to the timing and made a bad choice.

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Anonymous wrote:That voice memo is the week she gave birth. Probably having a hard time thinking about being away when she is nesting days before popping or actually sleep deprived with a new born. We don't know what day exactly she gave birth but it seems it was the first week of February.

Yes, agree she had just given birth. But I’m just not sure it’s appropriate to call your “boss” like that and vent about baby weight and lack of a baby nurse.

And it’s also weird to me that she was supposed to do a movie called proxy in between it ends with us and having her baby. I just googled it and she was attached to it in 2022 and it was supposed to film and it still has not been made. So it obviously got canceled but just really weird choices to have baby number four and have literally three movies in the next six months.

Of course she felt overwhelmed. I’m not judging that. But it seems like she took on a lot and i think it impacted some of what happened on it ends with us.

I also really don’t like the dynamics that she has with her new boss. And asking them to change the production schedule. That is crazy and seems like from the start. She just had a lot of power.

One last thing I’ll point out - all the voice memos, emails, and text I’ve seen her, I don’t think she has sent one that didn’t reference Ryan. I don’t think she can go three or four sentences without referencing back to him. Even when she told Taylor she loved her when they were having their heart to heart in December 2024, she said I just love you, and I love my babies and Ryan. I find that odd.

I don't know if you are a woman, but it wouldn't be uncommon to send a rambling email in the days after birth when hormones are a mess, you haven't slept, you are panicking over a schedule that impacts your kids, you don't have help in place yet, and you have 3 jobs coming up.

Sure, she took on too much and there are lots of things to critize her for - but a rambling message around the time of the birth of a child isn't really worth getting nasty about. She was a working mother and birth isn't a walk in the park.

People are really looking for low hanging fruit now to attack her for not having it all together in the days surrounding the birth.

I am a woman. I’ve given birth to two kids and I work full-time.

I would never send rambling voice notes like this to my boss. I simply would not, and I don’t think you would either.

I also was smart enough to know maybe I shouldn’t book 3 films and launch a hair product line after giving birth to my fourth kid. I don’t know if it’s greed or a money grab or what was happening. I just can’t pretend to relate to this woman or her decisions at all.

I also refuse to infantilize women and say well we can’t control it. It’s our hormones. Of course we’re going to leave a long rambling voice note that we know is inappropriate after giving birth. Give me a break.

If we want to call out sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior or whatever ever happened on that set, we need to hold men to certain standards, but we also need to hold women to standards and not blame hormones.

Anonymous wrote:It is a very American thing to be anti-maternity leave and to hate on a woman who has just given birth.

In Canada, there is a completely different understanding of birth and receovery and she would have been allowed time off and accommodations would have had to have been made to support her, including supporting her choice to breastfeed.

America is very far behind when it comes to women's rights. But as long as women are against women's rights like in this thread, there won't be much progress.

No matter how much people hate Blake, she is still an actual human and woman.