Anonymous wrote:He is supposed to report all discharges of service weapon but was not put on leave until AP's arrest. IRS would have known he fired gun just from news accounts. Can someone clarify why he was not put on leave immediately? Or was it excused but facts in October were contrary to his statements to IRS? If he had to account for his actions in work context, curious what was said. VA would be able to subpoena his work records, yes?

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why some posters refer to BB’s mother as Big Mama or Big Momma? Why the dig at the mother?

Part of the smear campaign.

I think that her IG posts that were public until fairly recently were, err, off putting to some. Especially where she pretended to be talking to CB in heaven and referring to their prior closeness, that had not existed in life.

The smear campaign goes the other way, it has been blatant, calling Christine a "whore" etc. Just disgusting behavior and the group of BB is, shall we say, not too "big."

Whoa. Link?

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why some posters refer to BB’s mother as Big Mama or Big Momma? Why the dig at the mother?

Part of the smear campaign.

I think that her IG posts that were public until fairly recently were, err, off putting to some. Especially where she pretended to be talking to CB in heaven and referring to their prior closeness, that had not existed in life.

The smear campaign goes the other way, it has been blatant, calling Christine a "whore" etc. Just disgusting behavior and the group of BB is, shall we say, not too "big."

Anonymous wrote:The no obituary by BB is so striking. Surely he could have written some generic thing that would not have made him more legally at risk? Like so much else, really looks terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious why some posters refer to BB’s mother as Big Mama or Big Momma? Why the dig at the mother?

Part of the smear campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:The word from the hearing was "torn" I believe.

JR still has no motive to stab her in the neck. None.

BB and AP had a lot of motive and actions supporting charges higher than 2nd degree, perhaps.

Just because JR’s motive is not obvious doesn’t mean he couldn’t have had one.

If it was indeed his knife and her blood is on him, motive is less of an issue.

I don’t discount that JR could, in fact, have been the one who stabbed CB. But I don’t think ownership of the knife is that relevant here, where you have agreement between at least two of the parties that he’d bring a knife.

If JR was the one who stabbed CB, AP would be free as a bird if she’d just stayed downstairs on the phone with 911. I wonder if she thinks about that in her jail cell, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:I was thinking about this and there’s just no chance this random guy, who had set up this meeting with his own name and no apparent attempt to hide anything decided to stab this woman to death and oops was confronted and shot by the husband and the au pair who oops happened to be together and oops immediately replaced her. It’s too insane. I think a jury will agree even if the physical evidence is confusing or limited.

Right, but what happens when he arrives, having planned to cut off a woman’s pajamas and cut her with a knife during a simulated rape, and she isn’t compliant because she has no clue who this stranger is with a knife in her house? Does he think her fighting him off initially is part of the act? Do things get out of hand? We know it got at least as far as her pajamas being cut.

Well... do you really know WHO cut/tore any pajamas? It's possible BB cut them ahead of time. It's also possible CB had them and was planning for them to be part of the role-play... just that she didn't also know that BB was going to show up and shoot JR.

I wonder if CB had an agreed plan with JR (that BB may have known about), and then BB messaged JR separately and suggested that he (BB) could surprise CB by coming to her "rescue" during the scene. Then BB gets rid of his old phone that has the msg trail showing he communicated with JR separately. That may be why JR wasn't alarmed by the sound of someone else in the house.... b/c he was under the impression that BB was going to be there at some point. Maybe the shouts of "put the knife down" and "put the gun down" (if they actually happened) were statements that BB expected as part of BB joining the role-play.

If BB and CB used CB's messaging accounts for all the communications that have been mentioned publicly -- and yet there were OTHER communications that were coming from BB's or AP's phones (that happened to be thrown away 2 days earlier) -- JR could have expected BB in the scene and BB/AP could have suggested a knife be part of it.

Agree the above is likely.

CB was likely dressed when JR arrived then had pjs cut or torn off before stabbing if they did not have blood on them. So that's one element that tracks with testimony and texts thus far. Then sequence gets more murky.

The positioning of the bodies would be important but they had a LOT of time to restage the scene. In other cases there were indications of bodies being moved significantly. I still think she was likely drugged at some point, maybe during the birthday celebrations the night before. Would make her more controllable. JR's understanding of the mutually consented to script played out until the gun was actually fired. Once you are shot in the head, too late for self defense no matter how fit. Once he was on the ground easy for AP to stand over and shoot, little chance of missing.

There is literally no evidence to support this. None.

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Anonymous wrote:The word from the hearing was "torn" I believe.

JR still has no motive to stab her in the neck. None.

BB and AP had a lot of motive and actions supporting charges higher than 2nd degree, perhaps.

Just because JR’s motive is not obvious doesn’t mean he couldn’t have had one.

If it was indeed his knife and her blood is on him, motive is less of an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:The word from the hearing was "torn" I believe.

JR still has no motive to stab her in the neck. None.

BB and AP had a lot of motive and actions supporting charges higher than 2nd degree, perhaps.

Just because JR’s motive is not obvious doesn’t mean he couldn’t have had one.

If it was indeed his knife and her blood is on him, motive is less of an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I was thinking about this and there’s just no chance this random guy, who had set up this meeting with his own name and no apparent attempt to hide anything decided to stab this woman to death and oops was confronted and shot by the husband and the au pair who oops happened to be together and oops immediately replaced her. It’s too insane. I think a jury will agree even if the physical evidence is confusing or limited.

Right, but what happens when he arrives, having planned to cut off a woman’s pajamas and cut her with a knife during a simulated rape, and she isn’t compliant because she has no clue who this stranger is with a knife in her house? Does he think her fighting him off initially is part of the act? Do things get out of hand? We know it got at least as far as her pajamas being cut.

Well... do you really know WHO cut/tore any pajamas? It's possible BB cut them ahead of time. It's also possible CB had them and was planning for them to be part of the role-play... just that she didn't also know that BB was going to show up and shoot JR.

I wonder if CB had an agreed plan with JR (that BB may have known about), and then BB messaged JR separately and suggested that he (BB) could surprise CB by coming to her "rescue" during the scene. Then BB gets rid of his old phone that has the msg trail showing he communicated with JR separately. That may be why JR wasn't alarmed by the sound of someone else in the house.... b/c he was under the impression that BB was going to be there at some point. Maybe the shouts of "put the knife down" and "put the gun down" (if they actually happened) were statements that BB expected as part of BB joining the role-play.

If BB and CB used CB's messaging accounts for all the communications that have been mentioned publicly -- and yet there were OTHER communications that were coming from BB's or AP's phones (that happened to be thrown away 2 days earlier) -- JR could have expected BB in the scene and BB/AP could have suggested a knife be part of it.

Agree the above is likely.

CB was likely dressed when JR arrived then had pjs cut or torn off before stabbing if they did not have blood on them. So that's one element that tracks with testimony and texts thus far. Then sequence gets more murky.

The positioning of the bodies would be important but they had a LOT of time to restage the scene. In other cases there were indications of bodies being moved significantly. I still think she was likely drugged at some point, maybe during the birthday celebrations the night before. Would make her more controllable. JR's understanding of the mutually consented to script played out until the gun was actually fired. Once you are shot in the head, too late for self defense no matter how fit. Once he was on the ground easy for AP to stand over and shoot, little chance of missing.

Anonymous wrote:Curious why some posters refer to BB’s mother as Big Mama or Big Momma? Why the dig at the mother?

Anonymous wrote:The word from the hearing was "torn" I believe.

JR still has no motive to stab her in the neck. None.

BB and AP had a lot of motive and actions supporting charges higher than 2nd degree, perhaps.