Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 11:50     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.


Pennies, if that.

Just in time for huge increases in health insurance costs.

Good luck at the ballot box, GOP. You got wrecked in nearly every 2025 contest and you've done NOTHING to convince working Americans that you have a plan for them.


+1

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4854374-soft-cpi-with-an-asterisk-reading-between-the-lines-of-november-inflation

Some critics noted that the BLS assumed a zero inflation rate for October owners’ equivalent rent, which reduced the two-month rate of increase to 0.135%. Shelter’s change in contribution to the two-month CPI change was the largest of the cycle, which further calls into question the report’s reliability.


What? So where they didn't have actual data, they just assumed zero?

Yep. It’s called voodoo economics
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 11:07     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

This need for praise is just beyond pathetic

And that dumb dance picture makes it even more so

Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:51     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

RIP government data
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:49     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:Millions of new jobs for US workers.

Decrease in jobs for Foreign workers

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

just outstanding work. Imagine if we can do this for another 7 years.


Oh hi Karoline!

Nobody trusts a dot gov website. The White House brought that on themselves.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:39     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Trump is killing the economy.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:38     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:38     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:Millions of new jobs for US workers.

Decrease in jobs for Foreign workers

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

just outstanding work. Imagine if we can do this for another 7 years.



Unemployment went up by 1M.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:27     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Millions of new jobs for US workers.

Decrease in jobs for Foreign workers

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

just outstanding work. Imagine if we can do this for another 7 years.


Yes imagine all of our farms and slaughterhouses being closed and all of us to eat highly inflated produce from south america; meanwhile no one to work in our hospitals or senior care facilities as our GDP falls off the cliff.


imagine big agricultural corporations forced to attract US workers, adding health care as a benefit, guaranteeing full time wages. wages over $30 an hour.

imagine big tech forced to train US workers, hiring African Americans and Hispanics from 2 year universities and training them to be testers and developers, like I did in the 90's and 2000's.

imagine cheaper health care premiums because of huge reductions in emergency room visits for non paying foreign workers.

imagine cheaper rents because of less demand by foreign workers.

imagine Fortune 500 companies expanding intern programs and hiring US children to help train them

imagine medical residencies forced to accept all US school medical graduates, rather than replacing 20% with cheaper foreign doctors.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:25     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:Millions of new jobs for US workers.

Decrease in jobs for Foreign workers

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t07.htm

just outstanding work. Imagine if we can do this for another 7 years.


“In fact, the “boom” in native-born employment is merely a statistical illusion caused by complex rules in how the data are compiled and population figures are calculated.

Before getting into the technical details, let’s pause to ask whether the supposed foreign-born and native-born employment trends pass the sniff test. The Current Population Survey (CPS) shows that the foreign-born population dropped by 2.2 million from January to July, and foreign-born employment by 1 million. That’s far different than a recent estimate by leading researchers that full-year 2025 net immigration could range from +115 thousand to -525 thousand. Furthermore, the CPS reports that the native-born adult population rose by 3 million from January to July, and native-born employment was up 2.5 million in those six months. How is that possible when population growth excluding immigration is typically over half a million annually? Was there a baby boom 16 years ago, now entering the workforce? Or a medical innovation that prevented any deaths this year? A moment’s thought says these swings are implausible.

The second  reason is more technical—and damning: the annual CPS population adjustment. The CPS updates the survey each January to match the latest Census population estimates. The total population reported in the CPS sometimes jumps significantly up or down. In January 2025, the adjustment was substantial, adding 3.5 million people overall, which increased the number of adults by 2.9 million, employed people by 2.0 million, and native-born employed people by 1.2 million. 

Historical CPS data are not revised. Table A-7 of the July jobs report shows a 2 million increase in native-born employment between July 2024 and July 2025, but 1.2 million of that increase—more than half—is due to the population adjustment in January 2025. It’s not an apples-to-apples comparison. 

The third reason is the most important. Census population estimates serve as the “population controls” for the CPS. That means the total population reported each month in 2025 in the CPS equals the monthly population projections that the Census calculated in late 2024. These population controls predetermine not just the total population but also the population by age, sex, and race & ethnicity. That means we also already know that the CPS will report that there are, for instance, 5,308,938 Hispanic/Latino men age 25-34 in October 2025.

In contrast, the native-born and foreign-born populations are not set by Census estimates. Instead, nativity (whether someone was born in the U.S. or elsewhere) depends on survey responses. However, the native-born and foreign-born populations must sum to the predetermined totals for the population and demographic groups, known as “population controls.” If foreign-born responses decrease for any reason, the survey’s sampling and weighting procedures will adjust the native-born population so that the total matches the population controls.”

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/09/01/native-born-employment-has-not-soared/
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:20     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.


Pennies, if that.

Just in time for huge increases in health insurance costs.

Good luck at the ballot box, GOP. You got wrecked in nearly every 2025 contest and you've done NOTHING to convince working Americans that you have a plan for them.


+1

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4854374-soft-cpi-with-an-asterisk-reading-between-the-lines-of-november-inflation

Some critics noted that the BLS assumed a zero inflation rate for October owners’ equivalent rent, which reduced the two-month rate of increase to 0.135%. Shelter’s change in contribution to the two-month CPI change was the largest of the cycle, which further calls into question the report’s reliability.


What? So where they didn't have actual data, they just assumed zero?

Yes.

Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 10:04     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.


Pennies, if that.

Just in time for huge increases in health insurance costs.

Good luck at the ballot box, GOP. You got wrecked in nearly every 2025 contest and you've done NOTHING to convince working Americans that you have a plan for them.


+1

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4854374-soft-cpi-with-an-asterisk-reading-between-the-lines-of-november-inflation

Some critics noted that the BLS assumed a zero inflation rate for October owners’ equivalent rent, which reduced the two-month rate of increase to 0.135%. Shelter’s change in contribution to the two-month CPI change was the largest of the cycle, which further calls into question the report’s reliability.


What? So where they didn't have actual data, they just assumed zero?
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 09:47     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.


Pennies, if that.

Just in time for huge increases in health insurance costs.

Good luck at the ballot box, GOP. You got wrecked in nearly every 2025 contest and you've done NOTHING to convince working Americans that you have a plan for them.


+1

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4854374-soft-cpi-with-an-asterisk-reading-between-the-lines-of-november-inflation

Some critics noted that the BLS assumed a zero inflation rate for October owners’ equivalent rent, which reduced the two-month rate of increase to 0.135%. Shelter’s change in contribution to the two-month CPI change was the largest of the cycle, which further calls into question the report’s reliability.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 09:36     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

Anonymous wrote:While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.


Pennies, if that.

Just in time for huge increases in health insurance costs.

Good luck at the ballot box, GOP. You got wrecked in nearly every 2025 contest and you've done NOTHING to convince working Americans that you have a plan for them.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 08:55     Subject: Trump 47 Economy

While the inflation number appears good, I would take it with a grain of salt because 1) it isn't what consumers are experiencing and 2) fuzzy data from the government shut down.
Anonymous
Post 12/18/2025 08:47     Subject: Re:Trump 47 Economy