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Anonymous wrote:Don't think this the GA sales pitch they were intending on at NVA. Any insiders actually know how many girls per team they retained?

let's just say more than half of players from each age group went to different ID sessions. even few loudoun coaches' DD are not returning

Don't think this the GA sales pitch they were intending on at NVA. Any insiders actually know how many girls per team they retained?

What happened to the NVA girls? Undefeated season all of a sudden tanking in the last 3 weeks

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Anonymous wrote:Midwest United too out of Grand Rapids MI.

Midwest is a lower third GA club (except their 2012s who appear to be very good), but I would imagine will fall into upper middle of the GA. Increases the Middle depth, but they are not of the caliber of the top end clubs in GA.

Midwest United also partnered with MI Rangers for this GA ... MI Rangers has a lot of good players. This combination of clubs for the the top teams at GA will make Midwest United a solid team in the Midwest.

That partnership has been ended when Midwest went to the GA, Michigan Rangers is going solo in ECNL-RL.

Quite a few MW high school age players also left at the announcement to join Hawks & Nationals.

are you sure about that? because yes MI Rangers are also doing ECNL-RL but they are also doing E64 (or Club Premier 1 as it's called now )... and the partnership seems still up on their sites. Also, The Hawks and Nationals are 2-1/2 hours one-way from Midwest United (i'm not saying kids don't do 5 hour round trips, plus 2 hours a practice 3x a week, but its not next door).

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Anonymous wrote:Midwest United too out of Grand Rapids MI.

Midwest is a lower third GA club (except their 2012s who appear to be very good), but I would imagine will fall into upper middle of the GA. Increases the Middle depth, but they are not of the caliber of the top end clubs in GA.

Midwest United also partnered with MI Rangers for this GA ... MI Rangers has a lot of good players. This combination of clubs for the the top teams at GA will make Midwest United a solid team in the Midwest.

That partnership has been ended when Midwest went to the GA, Michigan Rangers is going solo in ECNL-RL.

Quite a few MW high school age players also left at the announcement to join Hawks & Nationals.

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Anonymous wrote:Midwest United too out of Grand Rapids MI.

Midwest is a lower third GA club (except their 2012s who appear to be very good), but I would imagine will fall into upper middle of the GA. Increases the Middle depth, but they are not of the caliber of the top end clubs in GA.

Midwest United also partnered with MI Rangers for this GA ... MI Rangers has a lot of good players. This combination of clubs for the the top teams at GA will make Midwest United a solid team in the Midwest.

Anonymous wrote:Midwest United too out of Grand Rapids MI.

Midwest is a lower third GA club (except their 2012s who appear to be very good), but I would imagine will fall into upper middle of the GA. Increases the Middle depth, but they are not of the caliber of the top end clubs in GA.

Midwest United too out of Grand Rapids MI.

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Anonymous wrote:SC Surf parents think they will get ECNL right away. LOL

If they don't they'll just swith back to GA and try to leverage into MLSN. Competition is good now that GA+MLSN are working as s bundle the way ECNL was with both boys and girls being mandatory for clubs to play in ECNL girls.

Why is competition all of a sudden good in GA because of a partnership with MLSNext? What club have they added that's a real game changer? Is a McLean or Loudoun (team below NVA) stand alone GA team any better than the SC Surf teams?

Uhh yeah..NVA alone is a very solid pick up. And so is Charlotte independence.

ECNL does not equal good.

There are many many abysmal ECNL clubs.

NVA is a middling club (nationally) at best. Same with Charlotte. For GA, they will/could be a top half of the conference type club, but let's not kid ourselves that getting them in going to move the (GA) meter.

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Anonymous wrote:SC Surf parents think they will get ECNL right away. LOL

If they don't they'll just swith back to GA and try to leverage into MLSN. Competition is good now that GA+MLSN are working as s bundle the way ECNL was with both boys and girls being mandatory for clubs to play in ECNL girls.

Why is competition all of a sudden good in GA because of a partnership with MLSNext? What club have they added that's a real game changer? Is a McLean or Loudoun (team below NVA) stand alone GA team any better than the SC Surf teams?

Uhh yeah..NVA alone is a very solid pick up. And so is Charlotte independence.

ECNL does not equal good.

There are many many abysmal ECNL clubs.

Even with the mass exodus from the NVA girls teams?

I noticed NVA teams losing games in the MA standings recently. Did the girls already leave NVA?

The good part about GA and ECNL partnering and competing for clubs is that it pressures leagues to let in the top performers from lower leagues. If they don't do this the other leagues will let them in.

The needle of team/club LEVEL on a league basis has not shifted much at all.

In relation to girls only..

GA top end is no better
GA middle is deeper than last year (Midwest, NVA, Charlotte)
GA bottom end is getting worse with the new club adds (the clubs ranked 400-1200)

ECNL top end is no better
ECNL middle is slightly worse (loss of Midwest, NVA, Charlotte)
ECNL bottom end is no better

ECNL-RL top end has gotten better
ECNL-RL middle is the same
ECNL-RL bottom end has got more depth now

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Anonymous wrote:SC Surf parents think they will get ECNL right away. LOL

If they don't they'll just swith back to GA and try to leverage into MLSN. Competition is good now that GA+MLSN are working as s bundle the way ECNL was with both boys and girls being mandatory for clubs to play in ECNL girls.

Why is competition all of a sudden good in GA because of a partnership with MLSNext? What club have they added that's a real game changer? Is a McLean or Loudoun (team below NVA) stand alone GA team any better than the SC Surf teams?

Uhh yeah..NVA alone is a very solid pick up. And so is Charlotte independence.

ECNL does not equal good.

There are many many abysmal ECNL clubs.

Even with the mass exodus from the NVA girls teams?

There are so many open spots in ECNL bud.

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Anonymous wrote:SC Surf parents think they will get ECNL right away. LOL

If they don't they'll just swith back to GA and try to leverage into MLSN. Competition is good now that GA+MLSN are working as s bundle the way ECNL was with both boys and girls being mandatory for clubs to play in ECNL girls.

Why is competition all of a sudden good in GA because of a partnership with MLSNext? What club have they added that's a real game changer? Is a McLean or Loudoun (team below NVA) stand alone GA team any better than the SC Surf teams?

Because MLSN+GA are now considered a package deal if clubs want MLSN they'll need to play their girls in GA.

This is exactly the opposite of what ECNL used to do. If clubs wanted girls ECNL they'd need to play their boys in ECNL.

Lather rinse repeat and you can see where this is going. Most clubs favor boys teams which means they'll want into MLSN.