Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone in this thread holding American citizens to plenty of standards of conduct, while holding ICE to exactly none.
JD Vance himself, proud graduate of Yale law school, said ICE agents have absolute immunity. The stink comes from the top.
Saying it doesn’t make it so. Facts and circumstances matter. Immunity is narrow and nuanced. Calling it absolute immunity is misleading.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone in this thread holding American citizens to plenty of standards of conduct, while holding ICE to exactly none.
JD Vance himself, proud graduate of Yale law school, said ICE agents have absolute immunity. The stink comes from the top.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone in this thread holding American citizens to plenty of standards of conduct, while holding ICE to exactly none.
JD Vance himself, proud graduate of Yale law school, said ICE agents have absolute immunity. The stink comes from the top.
Anonymous wrote:Someone in this thread holding American citizens to plenty of standards of conduct, while holding ICE to exactly none.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
They don't have to identify themselves to vigilantes that aren't even being arrested.
I’m sure that the first time someone shoots an agent in the face in self defense (and is eventually found not guilty) you’ll be like, well, it’s the price they pay to hide their identifies….?
If they were professionals that wanted to avoid violence they would identify. This is why the democrats want to make sure additional funding is contingent on accountability, for the safety of the agents and the rest of America.
So you're saying a vigilante would shoot someone in the face who isn't even being arrested.
Let's break it out you seem to be slow on the up take.
Agent is arresting illegal alien, illegal alien can ask for documentation.
Agent has no obligation to you or anyone else not being arrested.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
Seriously. In what functioning democracy do you expect citizens to follow the orders of masked and unidentified goons? How would a citizen know they were dealing with an ICE agent?
You seem confused.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
Seriously. In what functioning democracy do you expect citizens to follow the orders of masked and unidentified goons? How would a citizen know they were dealing with an ICE agent?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
They don't have to identify themselves to vigilantes that aren't even being arrested.
I’m sure that the first time someone shoots an agent in the face in self defense (and is eventually found not guilty) you’ll be like, well, it’s the price they pay to hide their identifies….?
If they were professionals that wanted to avoid violence they would identify. This is why the democrats want to make sure additional funding is contingent on accountability, for the safety of the agents and the rest of America.
So you're saying a vigilante would shoot someone in the face who isn't even being arrested.
Let's break it out you seem to be slow on the up take.
Agent is arresting illegal alien, illegal alien can ask for documentation.
Agent has no obligation to you or anyone else not being arrested.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
They don't have to identify themselves to vigilantes that aren't even being arrested.
I’m sure that the first time someone shoots an agent in the face in self defense (and is eventually found not guilty) you’ll be like, well, it’s the price they pay to hide their identifies….?
If they were professionals that wanted to avoid violence they would identify. This is why the democrats want to make sure additional funding is contingent on accountability, for the safety of the agents and the rest of America.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
They don't have to identify themselves to vigilantes that aren't even being arrested.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ICE pulls US Citizen from her cat fur videoing them. Local police chief intervened. These trump goons will murder again.
St. Peter police chief blocks federal agents from arresting resident | MPR News https://share.google/kzXLb7Eyfi2mZL605
They piled out of their car and pointed their pistols at her. For following them. They probably were hoping she'd move her car an inch so they could shoot her
The video is ridiculous. They raise their guns literally within 1 second of jumping out.
So many trigger happy goons roaming this country. No training. No policy. No procedures.
Told by their bosses to disregard the law.
This is unacceptable. I’ve lived all around the world and I have never seen such trigger happy police. There should be strict standards governing when ICE is allowed to take out guns and point them at civilians.
Here’s the video.
This is stupid. While you can video police in public places- you have to stay a safe distance away and not interfere. Following them is a gray area and risky. If someone was following you for an extended time, you’d probably call the police, right? It’s threatening and suspicious behavior to be following someone in your car, especially law enforcement/federal agents, and can be considered interference or intimidation. They can absolutely pull you over and get you out and question/detain you for that. Don’t believe it- Go try and follow any other law enforcement officer around while they are on duty and see what happens.
I noticed you neglected to discuss how they all had weapons drawn at her.
Because she could have attacked them and tin them over she's not following the order to get our if the car and obstructing
Not a lawful order.
Yes it is, you must follow orders by federal law enforcement for detainment.
Properly identified and announced law enforcement. Not unidentified people wearing masks and pointing guns at you.
They don't have to identify themselves to vigilantes that aren't even being arrested.