Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 17:30     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.


DP. I honestly think APS is doing the best they can. Mandatory vaccines for staff, masking for all kids, along with testing (most will opt in) is going to go a long way in mitigation. I think if there's any advocacy to be done, we need to focus on principals who won't do outdoor lunch, where kids will be unmasked.


These are wins. Most school districts aren't even doing this much.

For once, I can appreciate APE being quiet and just letting SR as you said, "wring hands".


SR is and has been advocating strongly for outdoor lunch for many months. Where have you been? Or do you just like to complain from your couch?




So funny that you think Outdoor Lunch has been trademarked by SR. A lot of people that don't want to be affiliated with SR advocated for Outdoor Lunch too prior to Hybrid starting.


So defensive too... sorry that Duran et al isn't capitulating to your every whim.


Yes, both people in and out of SR have been advocating for outdoor lunch. Many many people want it. You should join in the efforts.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 17:28     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.


DP. I honestly think APS is doing the best they can. Mandatory vaccines for staff, masking for all kids, along with testing (most will opt in) is going to go a long way in mitigation. I think if there's any advocacy to be done, we need to focus on principals who won't do outdoor lunch, where kids will be unmasked.


These are wins. Most school districts aren't even doing this much.

For once, I can appreciate APE being quiet and just letting SR as you said, "wring hands".


SR is and has been advocating strongly for outdoor lunch for many months. Where have you been? Or do you just like to complain from your couch?




So funny that you think Outdoor Lunch has been trademarked by SR. A lot of people that don't want to be affiliated with SR advocated for Outdoor Lunch too prior to Hybrid starting.


So defensive too... sorry that Duran et al isn't capitulating to your every whim.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 17:16     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.


DP. I honestly think APS is doing the best they can. Mandatory vaccines for staff, masking for all kids, along with testing (most will opt in) is going to go a long way in mitigation. I think if there's any advocacy to be done, we need to focus on principals who won't do outdoor lunch, where kids will be unmasked.


These are wins. Most school districts aren't even doing this much.

For once, I can appreciate APE being quiet and just letting SR as you said, "wring hands".


SR is and has been advocating strongly for outdoor lunch for many months. Where have you been? Or do you just like to complain from your couch?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 17:15     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?


This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd


She's advocating for standalone HEPA filters, a very very widely recommended safety measure. What's to integrate? What's to understand?

Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 12:37     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:Who is SR? I read AEM here and there I don't know who you are referring to.


Smart Restart. What a ridiculous name, btw. They are the opposite of APE (Arlington Parents for Education), who advocated for opening schools last year. I don't know if we can name names, but the two most active people right now are Ventilation Lady (the person who has her hands all over how APS is doing ventilation wrong in AEM) and Lawyer Lady (the other one who always has long, wordy posts on AEM). The admin at AEM seem to fall on their side and lets them get away with a lot of the discussion there. They have a Facebook page if you're interested in lurking like I do.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 12:28     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Who is SR? I read AEM here and there I don't know who you are referring to.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 12:23     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Don't you know that every APS RTS decision is supposed to go through SR and their minions?

School would have never opened with their impossible standards. Nothing will ever be good enough for them.

I don't know if SR 1303 was the answer, but it does force Duran's hand, and gives APS the excuse to shut them down.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 11:25     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?


This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd


I just went to their Twitter page. They are re-reporting every teacher close contact by school. This is already public information, but they clearly are trying to raise anxiety levels.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 11:20     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?


This. Plus she takes info from the internet and thinks that just because a website says something that magically it is going to work well and fit with the HVAC systems in the school. Amazingly, integration with existing systems isn’t as easy as plugging in a cable like she is imagining.

For her arguments to have any merit, she would actually need to understand the entire setup of the current systems - manufacturers, years, and so on - then understand what can and can’t be integrated, then be able to evaluate and create a plan to do so, and on and on

I don’t know why people latch on to her except for their anxiety is just through the roof and they are looking to grasp on to any last straw that schools shouldn’t open. In that way, she and her followers are like the anti-vax crowd
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 11:11     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.


DP. I honestly think APS is doing the best they can. Mandatory vaccines for staff, masking for all kids, along with testing (most will opt in) is going to go a long way in mitigation. I think if there's any advocacy to be done, we need to focus on principals who won't do outdoor lunch, where kids will be unmasked.


These are wins. Most school districts aren't even doing this much.

For once, I can appreciate APE being quiet and just letting SR as you said, "wring hands".


Plus, APS lead the teacher vax mandate. Ffx parents were screaming when their leadership took so long to announce they would require it.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 10:46     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP but is AEM the equivalent of #openFCPS?


Not that’s the APE group.

And then there is a white supremacist group. And an anti-LGBTQ group too.

Lots of losers.


A lot of overlap between those groups - anti mask, APE, anti CRT, school choice, anti LGBTQ, Trumpers.


+1


School choice has supporters in both political parties.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 10:12     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
What SR and their supporters are doing is so counterproductive. If I had a degree in Facilities Management and had so-called "experts" constantly emailing and calling me and my boss, tell me in great detail what I'm doing wrong and what a loser I am, I'd stop listening to them too. APS has their experts. I remember that they talked to someone at Harvard (or another Ivy League school) about ventilation last spring?
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2021 09:16     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.


DP. I honestly think APS is doing the best they can. Mandatory vaccines for staff, masking for all kids, along with testing (most will opt in) is going to go a long way in mitigation. I think if there's any advocacy to be done, we need to focus on principals who won't do outdoor lunch, where kids will be unmasked.


These are wins. Most school districts aren't even doing this much.

For once, I can appreciate APE being quiet and just letting SR as you said, "wring hands".
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 22:46     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NP but is AEM the equivalent of #openFCPS?


Not that’s the APE group.

And then there is a white supremacist group. And an anti-LGBTQ group too.

Lots of losers.


A lot of overlap between those groups - anti mask, APE, anti CRT, school choice, anti LGBTQ, Trumpers.


+1
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2021 22:41     Subject: Can someone explain AEM to me?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

The AEM moderator has given complete reins to SR leadership. Lawyer Lady is back along with sidekick Ventilation Lady. The moderator even allowed a third SR person start a thread with her permission. I actually agree with some of what they say, but do they have to be so offputting? They post long winded theses as if they are experts, not allowing anyone to get a word in edgewise.

I guess we're back to the Spring. Where's APE when you need them. I'd like some crazy back to balance SR's hand wringing righteousness.



Thank goodness for SB 1303.