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Anonymous wrote:apparently OP hit a nerve

The only thing OP hit is her head at some point.

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Anonymous wrote:An example of hard-working, high earning dcum self-made from rags to riches:
"I am smart and I got the degree bcs I am smart, and I earned that degree and I worked hard for it. I am a self-made millionaire, all by myself. Nobody helped me, I work hard, I will even drive an uber to earn more money. So, no I am not privileged at all, I am a self-made rag to riches story!"

(update to the post, mom and dad paid for college, and grad school, and off-campus housing, and a new corolla, and food since college food is gross. So, of course, I have a car to drive as an uber! And the down payments and they got the job with uncle Jimmy at his law firm. That does not help, that is just what every kid got! And I had to work way harder for it, than Suzy and Mark and Kevin, cause their dad is Jeff Bezos! I am actually from the ghetto, in Potomac, do you know how hard that was for me? That they had a huge place in DC, but I have to live in the sticks!"

Or, here is my real one. I grew up in the midwest. My parents worked their whole lives; we weren't poor, but we could see it from our standard of living. It was a big deal to get a new pair of shoes. The schools were horrible, though I didn't know it until much later. There were no vacations, except the driving ones to see my grandparents; we couldn't afford hotels, except for a one night stay at the Howard Johnson every now and then (I didn't fly on an airplane until I was in my twenties). I got my first job in seventh grade and worked through high school at the grocery store and in college as a janitor. I was the first person in my family to go to college. I paid for college and law school with student debt and what little I earned. I made it to big law and my big partner salary because I worked incredibly hard and finished at the top of my law school class; I got lucky , too, as does anyone who makes it to the point of earning millions. But most don't get to that point without a lot of sweat equity. My biggest concern as an adult is that my kids don't know what it is to strive and struggle, and I have told them a million times that my wife and I worked hard, sure, but that a lot of people worked just as hard and things just didn't break their way.

I don't have a hard luck story (mine is a common one among economically similarly situated people), but I damn sure wasn't raised privileged.

Don’t bother, OP is going to tell you how stupid you are for even posting this and not seeing your privilege in having shoes and grandparents.

Or that your parents were married so you're privileged and how lucky you were to not be abused.

Anonymous wrote:apparently OP hit a nerve

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Anonymous wrote:An example of hard-working, high earning dcum self-made from rags to riches:
"I am smart and I got the degree bcs I am smart, and I earned that degree and I worked hard for it. I am a self-made millionaire, all by myself. Nobody helped me, I work hard, I will even drive an uber to earn more money. So, no I am not privileged at all, I am a self-made rag to riches story!"

(update to the post, mom and dad paid for college, and grad school, and off-campus housing, and a new corolla, and food since college food is gross. So, of course, I have a car to drive as an uber! And the down payments and they got the job with uncle Jimmy at his law firm. That does not help, that is just what every kid got! And I had to work way harder for it, than Suzy and Mark and Kevin, cause their dad is Jeff Bezos! I am actually from the ghetto, in Potomac, do you know how hard that was for me? That they had a huge place in DC, but I have to live in the sticks!"

Or, here is my real one. I grew up in the midwest. My parents worked their whole lives; we weren't poor, but we could see it from our standard of living. It was a big deal to get a new pair of shoes. The schools were horrible, though I didn't know it until much later. There were no vacations, except the driving ones to see my grandparents; we couldn't afford hotels, except for a one night stay at the Howard Johnson every now and then (I didn't fly on an airplane until I was in my twenties). I got my first job in seventh grade and worked through high school at the grocery store and in college as a janitor. I was the first person in my family to go to college. I paid for college and law school with student debt and what little I earned. I made it to big law and my big partner salary because I worked incredibly hard and finished at the top of my law school class; I got lucky , too, as does anyone who makes it to the point of earning millions. But most don't get to that point without a lot of sweat equity. My biggest concern as an adult is that my kids don't know what it is to strive and struggle, and I have told them a million times that my wife and I worked hard, sure, but that a lot of people worked just as hard and things just didn't break their way.

I don't have a hard luck story (mine is a common one among economically similarly situated people), but I damn sure wasn't raised privileged.

Don’t bother, OP is going to tell you how stupid you are for even posting this and not seeing your privilege in having shoes and grandparents.

Anonymous wrote:My Mom is somewhat of a self made person.
1) born in 1920s on a farm in Ireland one five whose father died when he was only 42
2 Great Depression and WWII was her childhood growing up in poverty.
3) At 14 thrown out of House as older brother took over farm and with no HS or home managed to make it to Dublin to be a maid/nanny scrubbing and cleaning.
4) made it to America in her late 20s in a SRO rooming house as a waitress.
5) got married at 32 to a man who turned out to be a violent alcoholic she had four kids with who left her a penniless young widow with four kids
6) managed to get a job in a fortune 100 company, do HS at night, buy a new car and her own home all in her 50s and early 60s getting all four kids through grad school.

And in retrospect my Mom making it to America made her luckier than most folks on the world.


Mere fact you were allowed to live at home and graduate HS makes you privileged

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Anonymous wrote:An example of hard-working, high earning dcum self-made from rags to riches:
"I am smart and I got the degree bcs I am smart, and I earned that degree and I worked hard for it. I am a self-made millionaire, all by myself. Nobody helped me, I work hard, I will even drive an uber to earn more money. So, no I am not privileged at all, I am a self-made rag to riches story!"

(update to the post, mom and dad paid for college, and grad school, and off-campus housing, and a new corolla, and food since college food is gross. So, of course, I have a car to drive as an uber! And the down payments and they got the job with uncle Jimmy at his law firm. That does not help, that is just what every kid got! And I had to work way harder for it, than Suzy and Mark and Kevin, cause their dad is Jeff Bezos! I am actually from the ghetto, in Potomac, do you know how hard that was for me? That they had a huge place in DC, but I have to live in the sticks!"

Or, here is my real one. I grew up in the midwest. My parents worked their whole lives; we weren't poor, but we could see it from our standard of living. It was a big deal to get a new pair of shoes. The schools were horrible, though I didn't know it until much later. There were no vacations, except the driving ones to see my grandparents; we couldn't afford hotels, except for a one night stay at the Howard Johnson every now and then (I didn't fly on an airplane until I was in my twenties). I got my first job in seventh grade and worked through high school at the grocery store and in college as a janitor. I was the first person in my family to go to college. I paid for college and law school with student debt and what little I earned. I made it to big law and my big partner salary because I worked incredibly hard and finished at the top of my law school class; I got lucky , too, as does anyone who makes it to the point of earning millions. But most don't get to that point without a lot of sweat equity. My biggest concern as an adult is that my kids don't know what it is to strive and struggle, and I have told them a million times that my wife and I worked hard, sure, but that a lot of people worked just as hard and things just didn't break their way.

I don't have a hard luck story (mine is a common one among economically similarly situated people), but I damn sure wasn't raised privileged.

Anonymous wrote:An example of hard-working, high earning dcum self-made from rags to riches:
"I am smart and I got the degree bcs I am smart, and I earned that degree and I worked hard for it. I am a self-made millionaire, all by myself. Nobody helped me, I work hard, I will even drive an uber to earn more money. So, no I am not privileged at all, I am a self-made rag to riches story!"

(update to the post, mom and dad paid for college, and grad school, and off-campus housing, and a new corolla, and food since college food is gross. So, of course, I have a car to drive as an uber! And the down payments and they got the job with uncle Jimmy at his law firm. That does not help, that is just what every kid got! And I had to work way harder for it, than Suzy and Mark and Kevin, cause their dad is Jeff Bezos! I am actually from the ghetto, in Potomac, do you know how hard that was for me? That they had a huge place in DC, but I have to live in the sticks!"

Anonymous wrote:An example of hard-working, high earning dcum self-made from rags to riches:
"I am smart and I got the degree bcs I am smart, and I earned that degree and I worked hard for it. I am a self-made millionaire, all by myself. Nobody helped me, I work hard, I will even drive an uber to earn more money. So, no I am not privileged at all, I am a self-made rag to riches story!"

(update to the post, mom and dad paid for college, and grad school, and off-campus housing, and a new corolla, and food since college food is gross. So, of course, I have a car to drive as an uber! And the down payments and they got the job with uncle Jimmy at his law firm. That does not help, that is just what every kid got! And I had to work way harder for it, than Suzy and Mark and Kevin, cause their dad is Jeff Bezos! I am actually from the ghetto, in Potomac, do you know how hard that was for me? That they had a huge place in DC, but I have to live in the sticks!"

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Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Thanks for taking me down a notch. I guess thinking that makes you feel better about yourself too.

What you're describing is charity. I give lots of money to charities for the less fortunate. But income and wealth disparities? That’s part luck, part work, and part smarts.

Which you have none of. Apart from luck maybe. You are lacking in smarts so, so, so much. Nobody who is smart could even post this idiotic drivel.

OP, you sound very angry. I’m not sure what your situation is in life but I think you’re focusing on the wrong people. Lawyers and doctors are high earning but they do work for their money. I understand your resentment of wealthy people who inherited their wealth and never worked a day for it, but somehow I doubt there are too many of them on this message board. There are always going to be people who make more than you, who look better than you, who are “luckier” than you. That’s life. Sure we can tax the Jeff Bezos and Elon Musks of the world and I sincerely think Elizabeth Warrens plan to tax those earning over $50m is great, but that’s not really going to change your life. We need healthcare reform because insurance companies have robbed us blind but the only way to change that is on a local level by supporting progressive politicians. Communism isn’t the answer, history has shown us what happens when one group overthrows another, they just step into the shoes of those they overthrew. Wealth didn’t get redistributed to the needy in Russia, farmers died by the millions instead. Stop focusing on what others make and do, and focus on yourself. How can you get ahead? What do you hood to accomplish? Is it to purchase a decent house? Is it to pay for your kids college? Is it to take a vacation once a year? Most of us will never ride on a private jet and most of us will never live in a million dollar home. But there’s nothing stopping any of us from having a roof over our heads and food on the table. Now I’m not talking about just letting the rich do their thing, like I said, we do need reform. But we also need folks to be responsible for themselves.

I am not op. Does it scare you that there are more of us that think you are a parasite?
There has never been communism in practice anywhere in the world, how could history teach us anything about it?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear OP, don't you get it? They do not care. Not the UMC or the rich on dcum, nor the rich in the U.S. In most of the world rich and privileged don't care and don't want to care. It is in their best preservation interests to propagate a myth that they deserved it, earned it, and are worthy of having a lot of money.
And that the poor are to blame for their own poverty.
This is a story as old as the time.

If the rich took the time to learn about the abject poverty many Americans live in today, next to them, they might feel some emotional pang to help them if they know their neighbor's kids were starving and cold at night. (never on the same street though!)
Suppose they found out that they have no money to fix the heat or even their range so they can cook.
But, that would mean they would have a tiny bit less money for their own kid's pony. So, they can't, because they convinced themselves that the poor person is just lazy, want welfare, only talks about taxing the rich, when they should be working, like they, the rich people did!
Right? Their kids are just as lazy as them, look at him in school, not even trying and where is his jacket? Can't even do his homework! Nothing but excuses, that they don't believe. The kid is lazy, it is not that he has no electricity or a laptop in his house!

But, if they learned that the poor person at the corner or a mom with a kid at the bus stop works 2, 3 jobs, works way more than the rich person does, and still can't pay for electricity, well, they would have to admit that something is wrong with the system that made them rich.
If they change the system, they might lose a few bucks, and that is not acceptable.
So, they close their eyes and pretend that they earned it and that the poor didn't earn it all of their own merits or the lack of it.
This is how dehumanizing works. Just like this thread showed you that you are treated as you are not all there, don't get it, do you want Mao to show up at your door, hey, aren't you still better off than in Stalin's gulag? They treat you like they treat other poor people, like they are dumb and to blame for your own "shortcomings."
IT IS YOUR FAULT! Not theirs. They will not get it even when "these" people are at their door and coming in with pitchfork for the 21st century, machines guns, no?
They will call them greedy and ungrateful and see nothing but flowers coming out of their own arses until their last breath. This is not new, this is not unique to the U.S, it has happened time and time again around the world.

Why do you even try here? If they were decent human beings that we're able to see that sharing some of their wealth, not all, not even a tiny portion of it, is a decent thing to do, we wouldn't be in this mess.
If conglomerates invested back in their workforce and their communities, gave a smidgeon bigger salaries, and improved the buying power in their own markets, they would have 1 less Billion out of 50B?
If we had the government that did not just bail out banks and did not stipulate that they had to keep paying their workforce to receive the stimulus, well, we would be a decent society filled with decent human beings. But, the rich are not decent, not do they have empathy for anyone but themselves.
We do not live in that society. We live among the ugly Pariahs of UMC that dcum represents so much.
So, stop trying those that will not change until the pitchforks come. No society changed all that easily without some major event happening. We are not Norway. We are the brutal Wild West, where the biggest gun, not the hardest work, wins it all.

This. This And this.

Btw -- if everyone "beneath" you who didn't make those "smart choices" and "worked hard" like you supposedly did - had made the "smart choices" and "worked hard" where would you be? There is only room for so many at cushy top jobs.
And those who count marrying someone with an inheritance or a high paying job as why they're entitled to be better off than the lazy poor? Get a grip. You did nothing except be willing to sell yourself. You're not a superior individual.

Thanks for taking me down a notch. I guess thinking that makes you feel better about yourself too.

What you're describing is charity. I give lots of money to charities for the less fortunate. But income and wealth disparities? That’s part luck, part work, and part smarts.

Which you have none of. Apart from luck maybe. You are lacking in smarts so, so, so much. Nobody who is smart could even post this idiotic drivel.

OP, you sound very angry. I’m not sure what your situation is in life but I think you’re focusing on the wrong people. Lawyers and doctors are high earning but they do work for their money. I understand your resentment of wealthy people who inherited their wealth and never worked a day for it, but somehow I doubt there are too many of them on this message board. There are always going to be people who make more than you, who look better than you, who are “luckier” than you. That’s life. Sure we can tax the Jeff Bezos and Elon Musks of the world and I sincerely think Elizabeth Warrens plan to tax those earning over $50m is great, but that’s not really going to change your life. We need healthcare reform because insurance companies have robbed us blind but the only way to change that is on a local level by supporting progressive politicians. Communism isn’t the answer, history has shown us what happens when one group overthrows another, they just step into the shoes of those they overthrew. Wealth didn’t get redistributed to the needy in Russia, farmers died by the millions instead. Stop focusing on what others make and do, and focus on yourself. How can you get ahead? What do you hood to accomplish? Is it to purchase a decent house? Is it to pay for your kids college? Is it to take a vacation once a year? Most of us will never ride on a private jet and most of us will never live in a million dollar home. But there’s nothing stopping any of us from having a roof over our heads and food on the table. Now I’m not talking about just letting the rich do their thing, like I said, we do need reform. But we also need folks to be responsible for themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious for the folks complaining, what is keeping you from increasing your wealth? Forget the millionaires and billionaires, what’s keeping you from keeping a roof over your head and food on the table in this country? You can easily go to community college and then transfer to a state school and major in something practical. Or you can get into the trades, a good plumber or electrician can certainly make over $50k a year. If your spouse is pulling in an equivalent income (teacher, nurse, etc), that’s $100k a year. If you work for a larger company you’ll make less than if you work for yourself but they will cover health insurance. You can live in a studio apartment or even with roommates if you can’t rely on your family and do the whole beans and rice lifestyle ala Dave Ramsey for 2-3 years while you save money on a down payment for a starter home or condo. Good side gigs to help you get the down payment faster can be driving Uber on the weekends or Target ($15/hr right now and I’m not in DC). Or heck, even dog walking. I walked dogs in college on top of working at the college for my loans and made a solid $400 a week and got my exercise in, that was back in 2005. Some of my friends did bartending on the weekends. I saved up some money for a clunker with a passenger door that didn’t open and drove it into the ground, but I didn’t have any car payments or anything. I shopped at Goodwill. I couldn’t afford to live in the city after college, even with roommates, so I lived in an apartment complex in the suburbs for a bit. Furniture was IKEA and Habitat for Humanity Restore. You really don’t need much. I live more comfortably now and can afford to splurge a little now but did get a bigger mortgage after we sold the starter house because we wanted to be in a good school district because it’s not in the budget to go private. We aren’t millionaires but certainly doing better than our parents and we will be able to pay for our kids to go to state college so they don’t have to struggle like we did. Forget about the noise of politics and the influence of social media, set goals for yourself and work those goals with baby steps.

Yet another privileged person who is has no self-awareness nor gratitude for the life she was given.

OP is a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious for the folks complaining, what is keeping you from increasing your wealth? Forget the millionaires and billionaires, what’s keeping you from keeping a roof over your head and food on the table in this country? You can easily go to community college and then transfer to a state school and major in something practical. Or you can get into the trades, a good plumber or electrician can certainly make over $50k a year. If your spouse is pulling in an equivalent income (teacher, nurse, etc), that’s $100k a year. If you work for a larger company you’ll make less than if you work for yourself but they will cover health insurance. You can live in a studio apartment or even with roommates if you can’t rely on your family and do the whole beans and rice lifestyle ala Dave Ramsey for 2-3 years while you save money on a down payment for a starter home or condo. Good side gigs to help you get the down payment faster can be driving Uber on the weekends or Target ($15/hr right now and I’m not in DC). Or heck, even dog walking. I walked dogs in college on top of working at the college for my loans and made a solid $400 a week and got my exercise in, that was back in 2005. Some of my friends did bartending on the weekends. I saved up some money for a clunker with a passenger door that didn’t open and drove it into the ground, but I didn’t have any car payments or anything. I shopped at Goodwill. I couldn’t afford to live in the city after college, even with roommates, so I lived in an apartment complex in the suburbs for a bit. Furniture was IKEA and Habitat for Humanity Restore. You really don’t need much. I live more comfortably now and can afford to splurge a little now but did get a bigger mortgage after we sold the starter house because we wanted to be in a good school district because it’s not in the budget to go private. We aren’t millionaires but certainly doing better than our parents and we will be able to pay for our kids to go to state college so they don’t have to struggle like we did. Forget about the noise of politics and the influence of social media, set goals for yourself and work those goals with baby steps.

Yet another privileged person who is has no self-awareness nor gratitude for the life she was given.